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Heard after newtown, that it had changed everything, and yet nothing seemed to change, you have a "d" rating with the nra indicating, of course, progun-control voting record, a very strong one. here we are asking if there is a middle in this argument or simply is there a larger conversation, a harder push that should be made perhaps by people who stand with you and have a "d" rating? >> well, i am actually yesterday, i read that a colleague of mine, a republican from arkansas, a former colleague, jay dickey, who i know well, who had led the effort in not allowing our cdc, our disease control c...

the motive is still unclear. but authorities say terrorism has not been ruled out. now, local police say syed farook, a u.s. citizen, had been employed as a san bernardino county health inspector for five years. they say he was at that holiday gathering yesterday morning. but according to witnesses at the gathering, he left abruptly, apparently angry. then he and his wife returned to the scene, according to witnesses, dressed in black and armed with assault rifles and handguns and opened fire on those inside. overnight, farook's brother-in-law apologized to victims and said he has no...

From arkansas said this at that time -- >> this is an issue of federally funded political advocacy. we have here an attempt by the cdc through the mpipc a disease control agency of the federal government to bring about gun control advocacy all over the united states. rather than calling violence a disease and guns as a germ, these people should be looking at the other root causes of crime. >> joining us now in an exclusive interview is jay dickey. congressman, you've changed your mind about this. why have you changed your mind and what is your view now? >> i'm not so sure i've changed my mind....

Science and research, and we now have less deaths on our highways because of that little fence. but we could, i think that is a good example of what we can do. they didn't try to get rid of the car. they did it in spite of the car. and that is what we can do with the guns. i know that we can find a way, but becan't by pointing the fingers at each other, to see what is different, but we with have one thing concern in common and that is that the kids and the innocent people and the kids being killed deserve our attention. >> thank you, jay dickey, thank you so much for coming on today. >> thank ...

Congress, and he is the self-described nra point person, and now he is a researcher into the gun violence and how the prevent it. thank you for being with me today, mr. dickey, and what chan changed? how did you have the change of the heart? >> well, it is the weight of the incidents that have occurred and nobody seems to be doing anything, and nobody is stepping into the ring. i figured that i could do it, bring some attention it to, and then get out of the way. >> when you spearheaded this legislation, why did you not think that the effect would be so far reaching as to effectively paralyze ...