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potentially multiple federal indictments. >> it's not a sure thing. >> i'm like, oh, really, you really think biden can beat him? >> nothing's a sure thing. but it's also like if you're trying to get the least popular figure as your nominee, donald trump is definitely that. that's just what the data say. >> that is what the data says. all right, my friend, have a wonderful evening. >> and thanks to you at home for joining us this evening. if you are a republican running for president in 2024, there is one question that you know you are going to have to answer. what do you think of do...

have a longer interview soon. we really appreciate it. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chris jansing starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing, live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. for donald trump, it has been a winning strategy his entire life. when you're in legal trouble, go on the attack. so, can a criminal court judge convince him to change course, keep quiet and play by the rules? that question at the heart of a court hearing less than 90 minutes from now. plus, a missouri teenager charged with threatening to kill or harm preside...

Vaccines at cvs. >> tim, i first met you when you were working for jeb. what if i told you, wait a few years and i'm here to tell you that your political party would some day be anti-vaccine, would you have believed me? >> it was the berkeley crowd that was anti-vax back in those days, brian. we have had a big turn on this issue. look, it is not just by party. to jason's point it is jeb's successor in florida. i mean ron di san advertise was for unemployment insurance for people who got covid through no fault of their own because it was out of control in the beginning, he was against financial...

Former president george w. bush said on a private conference call that jeb is a candidate who is peaking at the right time i guess is the best way to put it. i feel very good about our chances. that's w. talking. and the jeb campaign put out this ad knocking donald trump. >> this is another example of the lack of seriousness. we are at war. two months ago donald trump said isis was not our fight. >> let syria and isis fight. why are we -- >> he said hillary clinton would be a great negotiator with iran. >> i think hillary would have -- hillary always surrounded with very good people. i think h...

>> trump saying he defined trump. what is the jeb campaign saying about him trying to break through that definition? this last debate he was more aggressive than the others. >> certainly jeb bush worked hard to improve on his debate performances. before the last debate, he hired a debate coach to improve. we are starting to see the results shine through now. his campaign is putting a lot of money in early states with ads that try both from the campaign and from his super pac backing him that are trying to back him up and define his story and who he is. of course, that's the lesson from 2012. d...