i say to him, be like john mccain, the way he behaves, the way he serves his country, the way he conducts himself in public service. i want my boy to be like him. i don t want him to be like president trump. senator bob kerrey, i know we are talking about john mccain and the country should be talking about him. but thank you as well for your heroism and the work you did in protecting this country both overseas and in congress. middle east tensions are rapidly escalating. palestinian protesters continue to clash with israelis for the seventh consecutive we can at the border of the gaza strip. may 15th is the day after israel s declaration of independence and subsequent war in 1948 in which hundreds of thousands of palestinians were forced from their lands. fuelling more of the unrest is the of mo of the u.s. embassy to jerusalem, which is scheduled for monday, the same day as israel s 70th anniversary celebrations. nearly an protesters have been killed by live israeli fire since the violence broke out on march 30th. at the same time, more violence between israel and iran in syria is raising fears of a possible war. it all comes the same week that donald trump officially pulled the plug on america s participation in the iran nuclear deal. i want to talk more about the unrest unraveling in the middle east with someone who helped write the iran nuclear deal. joining me now, nuclear physicist earnest moniz. sir, thank you for being with us. we appreciate this. i don t know how many ways we can underscore this. there are reasons people may not like iran. and there are valid reasons for which people may be frustrated with iran s perform an as a regional neighbor in the middle east. but nuclear deal in part authored by people like yourself was done to achieve some specific ends. and most people agree was achieving those end. can you talk to me about that? absolutely. first of all, let me make clear you can certainly count me among those who are shall we say are concerned about iran s behavior with hezbollah, in syria, yemen, human rights, missiles, and the like. as you said, ali, this agreement was it was long known as it was being negotiated, it was focusing on nuclear weapons, making sure that everyone, we and iran s neighbors, our friends allies in that region, would verifiably understand that they had no nuclear weapon, even as we then push back on all of those other behaviors that we obviously don t like. i would just maybe offer one analogy going back to president reagan when he negotiated with the soviet union on nuclear arms control. he focused on nuclear weapons as an existential issue even as we had many, many other disputes with the so yet union. you know, it s interesting, because donald trump s rhetoric about this is working with some people. i was speaking to somebody the other day who says iran s compliance with the aspects of this nuclear deal having to do with production of nuclear materials, the jury is still out on that. i want to be clear you made the statement after we made the announcement of pulling out of the deal as international inspectors who have been on the ground every day since the deal was confirmed the iranians have complied. let s be clear. let s be on the record. you are here. the jury is not out on whether or not iran was living up to its end of the deal as it related to nuclear materials? that s correct. everyone says that, including the president s cabinet members. so that s very important. secondly, i want to emphasize the compliance is not just in terms of how nuclear materials are handled. but very importantly again, secretary mat nis the congress two weeks ago talked about how the agreement put forward a probust verification regime. iran is also complying in allowing the kinds of inspections that occur not only at the places that they have announced nuclear activity but also at other places that the iaea has asked to go to. and that s very, very critical. and that i want to emphasize does not, to use the popular word, sunset. we have forever the ability of the international inspectors, presumably, often with guidance from intelligence sources in the united states, israel, and other countries, that if there is suspect activity the iaea has access and has access in a time period for which no other country in the world is subject. besides iran. does not participating in this deal make it easier or harder to achieve the more complicated aims in the reej, including limiting iran s activity in syria, in yemen, with hezbollah, as you have said? does it make it easier or harder? i think over time it will make it harder. i think there is a strategic error. and we ll see how the deal goes. but you know, the europeans have made it clear. russia has made it clear and iran at least for the moment has said it will continue to comply with the agreement. but you know, history would say that without the united states engagement that may be very hard to sustain over the long term. and now what happens if we have lost that verification regime. right. if the international community does not have the confidence in iran not rejuvenating its weapons program? you start pull that thread, and it s not very pretty in terms of regional instability. earnest moniz, the former secretary of energy serving under president obama who helped write the iran nuclear deal. mr. secretary thank you for being with us. thank you. with me live from gaza, matt bradley, msnbc news correspond on theent. these demonstrations will be taking place every friday. they will continue at least until may 15th but thing got really hot today. reporter: that s right we had another day of violence. we saw two journalists badly injured by gunfire on the israeli side here on the gaza strip side. i was talking to people. there is a lot of anger out there. there are protesters who are burning tires. they are lofting kites they have set on fire that have been wafting over to the israeli side and setting agricultural fields on fire on the israeli side. this is just a taste, kind of a preview of what we can expect come monday and news. that s when we are going to see this great march of return that s been going every friday for the last two weeks now turn into a big process. organizers i spoke to today said they are expecting hundreds had of thousands of people that will rival the violent deadly protest that killed more than 40 people back on march 30th. we can expect to see a lot more violence here. one thin that s interesting, hamas while it has quite a bit of control how the protests are going. the genesis this idea, the genesis of the movement doesn t come from hamas. it comes from ingroups here in the gaza strip. they are hoping it stays that way. they are hoping that hamas which has a stronghold on civic life here that they stay somewhat independent that they are able to exercise protests against the israelis without being under the thumb of hamas. when you go out there, you can see that, there are no hamas flags. just palestinian flags in the field out there facing israel. we will watch on monday when the u.s. embassy opens in jerusalem. matt bradley in gaza for us. at&t issued a mea culpa about hiring michael cohen. they released a letter to employees saying that hiring michael cohen as a political consultant was a big mistake. they paid cohen thousands of dollars for help in dealing with the trump administration on a number of matters including the acquisition of time warner that donald trump said he didn t want to see happen when he was president. the washington post reports that internal documents from at&t detail the $600,000 they paid to cohen and describes his contract, which highlights how he is to quote creatively address political and communications issues and advise the company on matters before the federal communications commission. i m joined by tom handberger. tom, it s not clear to me, i m not a lawyer. it s not clear what if anything michael cohen did may have been illegal. it seems he is involved in questionable ethical stuff. but at&t, a company that has business before the administration, paying the personal lawyer of president trump through a company that he established in the weeks before the election does not pass a smell test to this economics reporter. well, i think that your first assessment that there is nothing that s obviously illegal here is correct. in fact, the payment to michael cohen, although now the ceo of at&t and another company, novartis have apologized for hiring him is not illegal. the concern is, at least in the ideas of these ceos now, it s unseemly. large amounts of money going to a guy who was the president s personal lawyer. which would appear to be paying for access in effect. rather than expertise. but it s not illegal to pay someone. it s not clear that michael cohen was required in this case to register as a lobbyist. he did not register. so the issue here is one of ethics and optics, not a matter of the law. but as stephanie ruhle points out and you point out a lot, this is how washington works. just to put it in context, at&t spent $16.8 million on lobbying in 2017. so this was about 3.5% of their total of make of that what you will. but the fact is, this isn t all that unusual for the way lobeing works and the way businesses work. it s not necessarily draining the swamp, but it s not unusual. it s not unusual. in fact, paying individuals with access to decision makers in washington is an age-old practice. it is increased recently. that is the amounts of money that goes to those who have connections. in particular former lawmakers, former public officials. those include former head of the cia, the fbi, our most augusta institutions can become very wealthy simply providing this kind of advice to private sector interests. what is a little bit unusual in michael cohen s case is that he doesn t have the past experience that a former u.s. official would have. that is at&t we know hired him for his expertise at the fcc of which he has none. he has a phone, that might be the level of expertise. has some expertise in taxi and the trump business but fcc matters, nothing that i know of. and defense contractors and accounting. it is a mystery why he was involved in any of these businesses. as you point out, it may not be illegal. tom good to see you as always. tom hamburger with the washington post. let s talk more. jill wine bank, a watergate special prosecutor and an msnbc prosecutor. while it s interesting to me, jill, the optics of public companies with their legal departments and optics departments allowing this to happen, paying money to a company established a little before the election with no expertise in any of the spaces they needed work done. put that aside for a second. what s mostly interesting here. i m going to put that back the companies that gave money to michael cohen. money from columbus nova. that s the only group that gave money to michael cohen for real estate work. on the other hand they seem to have ties to russian oligarchs. this is all very strange. and i think when we are looking for crimes we need to look at where did the money go? it s clear that nobody hired michael cohen for his expertise. he doesn t have any. and he shouldn t have been the go-between. but that is the only explanation you can have is that people thought that he had access or that he would pass the money on to the president. so we have to once again, just like in watergate, we have to follow the money. we have to see where it went. that s going to be a key question. so the question and to tom hamburger s point. if michael cohen was successful in shaking people down or ins canning him he had access he didn t have good for him. that s the american dream that he is living. more importantly, though, at&t gave him $600,000 and novartis gave him $1.2 million and he funneled that off into om place that s his business. he took a loan on a property against his in-laws property which is weird given how much money was coming into his bank account but it is curious the money that we need to know where it went is this columbus nova stuff, because the other money, maybe they were duped into thinking michael cohen could solve their problems. but who is this columbus nova and where did that money go? that is the key question, columbus nova. but i would say there are business issues involved, too. if you are a stockholder on at&t do you want your money spent wasted on hiring someone with no skills? there is no excuse for that. and that s why apparently one top official of at&t has been forced to resign. apologies have been issued by at&t and novartis. so they made a mistake in doing this. and probably would have never said anything except that they got caught. yeah. that s the key issue. but you are right. the russian money is the money we want to find out about. equally so, what if the at&t money was given for a specific action by the president? then you have a quid pro quo and you have bribery. other than that, you don t necessarily have a crime. but we need to know where even the at&t and novartis money went not just the russian money. giuliani was asked about this. he said it is a dead issue as far as i m concerned. that combined with the vice president tell reporters that he thinks that the mueller investigation should wrap itself up because it hasn t found anything. this is the most interesting stuff yet. it is. and you have a real echo again of watergate. you had richard nixon saying a year of watergate is enough. and you have the vice president saying we gave 1.2 million documents. but you reason is given the ones that are needed. you haven t cooperated completely. don t shut down an investigation until it comes to its own natural conclusion. this is just wrong. and it is more of the obstruction. it seems plain to me. the more they attack the fbi. the more they attack mueller, the more they attack the department of justice. the more they attack rosenstein. those are things that are obstruction of justice. you can have obstruction even if you don t have an underlying crime. you can. and that s what this looks like. they should be more careful. and i wouldn t be taking my legal advice from rudy giuliani or factual statements either because we know how inaccurate he has been. jill, there is weird stuff going on these days testimony michael cohen stuff, the rudy giuliani stuff. it s hard to believe. always great to see you, though, gives us an excuse to talk often. jill wine banks, former assistant watergate special prosecutor. thank you ali. to the white house. kelly o donnell is standing by. she covered the mccain campaign i m sure in that press briefing that s underway with the health and human services secretary but sarah huckabee sanders hasn t started her questions yet, there are going to be a lot of questions about the mccain comments. i would expect that our colleagues in the white house press corps would ask about a staffer who made this remark about senator mccain in the context of the confirmation process for gina haspel who is the nominee to be cia director. mccain has a long standing public rohr record against the use of interrogation methods that are commonly referred to as torture. back in the bush era after 9/11 they were deemed legal under what is called enhanced interrogation technique. he has long been an opponent of that kind of aggressive sort of interrogation. in part fueled by his own experience in vietnam where he was held for more than five and a half years and was subjected to horrific levels of physical beatings and extreme pain. so much so that as you outlined at the top of the program he hasslingering effects today. unable to move his arms above his he will boesz. i was there for the campaign, every day of it in 2008 and first met him in 1996 covering politics. i was in dayton ohio when i announced sarah palin as his running mate. in a new book the final memoir as it s expected to be john mccain s restless wave coming out later this month. he points out he really would have wanted joe lieberman to be his running mate. there were lots of reasons based on the convention process why he was discouraged from doing that. lieberman had been the prior democratic nominee. there is some speak now between mccain and palin. we will talk about that at another time. i know sarah huckabee sanders has take ten podium. those conversations as you stated, we plan for a full day of meetings on the 12th with some time reserved to carry over if necessary. certainly, the best outcome would be an agreement for complete and total denuclearization. but this is the beginning part of these conversations. i m not going to get ahead of what we expect for that day. but certainly that would be i think the best outcome. and we have been pretty up front about that. do they think that can actually happen in a day? i m not going to get ahead of this conferring and the process. but there have been several conversations that have taken place leading up to both secretary pompeo has had now two meetings that have been part of this process. so it s not just one day. you have to look at the broader picture but certainly we have that time set aside at this point. justin. i wanted to ask about the auto meeting earlier today. i know attendees of these spitball sessions often leave with impressions that the president agrees with their position. i wanted to see if you could clarify both if the president or the administration has agreed to open negotiations with california on a national cafe standard rather than sort of the dual system that could economist. we haven t finalized what that looks like. but today we part of that conversation, part of discussion on how best to move forward. we are going to continue these conversations as we have a specific policy announcement on that front we will let you know. sarah? john. come back to north korea. the president says that he believes that it is kim s intention to denuclearization. but when you listen to the man in charge of north/south relations he says the reason why we are doing this is because the program is complete. the reason we are shutting down the test poup is because we don t need it. akin to somebody who builds a house and enters into negotiation to tear it down. what gives you confidence that kim actually wants to take apart something that he just built? look, the president is going into this with eyes wide open as he said many times. we will see what happens. but this is certainly a process that has moved in the right direction. we ve seen some signs of good will from north korea. just this week with the three americans brought back home. also, the stopping of the ballistic missile tests. stopping with their research and development on their nuclear program and we are going to continue to push for complete and total denuclearization. we are also going to continue maximum pressure until we see that happen. again, stopping the ballistic missile testing, stopping all this testing, according to that official is because they don t need it anymore. they are done. kinds like you can put the saws and hammers away because the house is done. again, the president has been very clear that we are going into this. certainly we would like to see something happen. but as he has said, we are going to see what happens. we hope not just for north korea but for the entire world that they do the right thing and that this goes forward in a way that i think everyone would like to see. ayman. thanks sara. this week the ceos of at&t and novartis said it was a mistake for their companies to work with the president s lawyer. does the president think it was a mistake for his lawyer to work with them? i think this further proves that the president is not going to be influenced by special interests. it s the definition of draining the swamp, something the president talked about repeatedly during the campaign. for anything beyond that i would direct you to the president s outside counsel. draining the swamp. i think it s clear that the deputy of justice opposed the merger. and so certainly the president has not been influenced by any or his administration influenced by any outside special interests. was the president aware blake. sarah, you said in this room the other day it is unlikely there is going to be an infrastructure bill this year. that was supposed to be the signature legislative item of 2018 for republicans in this administration. can you lay out for us what exactly is your is this white house s legislative agenda for this year? certainly we would love to see something done on immigration. it s something the president has been talking about for a long time. we have laid out the principles and the priorities that we would like to see as part of an immigration package. there is still some movement on that front. we would still like to see something happen. we would love for congress to actually show up, do do their jobs. democrats to stop opposing good legislation and actually fix our broken immigration system. is it fair to think the assume that immigration is a priority item for this year. it has been for the president and certainly something we will like to see. david. two questions. we have heard a lot about white house aide kelly sadler and her comments about senator mccain reportedly saying in a meeting the president shouldn t worry about the senator s opposition to the nomination of haspel because he is dying away. megan mccain wondered allowed today why the aide still has a job at the white house. does she still have a job? auto aim not going to comment on an internal staffer meeting. do you know if he was aware when he said that about the freedom of information documents that showed last year administrator pruitt had dinner in rome with a catholic cardinal who was under investigation for child sex abuse. i am not aware of that i haven t spoken with the president about administrator pruitt today. does the white house not think you need to condemn these remarks or i m not going to validate a leak one way or the other out of of an internal staff meeting. are you saying she didn t say this? again i m not going to validate a leak out of an internal staff meeting one way or the other. does the president regret what he said during the campaign about john mccain when he said he wasn t a war hero, he prefers people that weren t captured? i believe the president has spoken about that. i haven t talked with him specifically about that. jeff. if you won t comment on the specific comment, what does the white house believe about senator mccain? is there a tone set from the top here where it is allowed for an aide to say he s dying anyway. there is not a tone set here. we have a respect for all americans. and that is what we try to put forward in everything we do, both in word and action, focusing on doing things that help every american in this country every single day. i think if you look at the policies we have put forth you will see that reflected. why not apologize to senator mccain. i am not going going to get into a back and forth because people want to create issues of leaked staff meetings. does the president have confidence in secretary kneelen is. as we have said before, if the president has no confidence in a cabinet member he will let you know. what more does the president think nielsen can do now under the law that she hasn t done. does he want her to close the u.s./mexico border. he wants us to do a number of i think this. he wants us to work with congress as we have laid out time and time again and as we have called on them to do. if democrats in congress would stop playing political games we would love to secure the border, we would love to close the loopholes in the system. we would love to get a fix on daca. there are a number of thing we have laid out. we would love to see all of those things get done. is republicans pushing for a vote on the floor to get this going? if it addresses all of those problems certainly we would support things that actually fix the broken immigration system that we have. the secretary of homeland security made a statement which she said the president was rightly frustrated about congressional inaction. why was that frustration to the secretary. why did the president direct his frustration specifically at her at the cabinet meeting? again i am not going to get into a back and forth on an internal meeting however i can tell you that the president and the secretary share the frustration. democrats have got to stop playing games. they have got to stop doing this just because it is a mid-term year. they still have to do their job. and ooeld wields like to see them fix our immigration system. not only is the administration frustrated but americans are, too. 80% of americans would like to see this problem fixed. they want something to be done. they are begging congress to do it. and certainly, i think not only does the president have a right to be frustrated. he has a right to be angry. he is, he is expressed that. he has done it publically and he is going to continue to do that until we can fix this flob. in nafta, is the white house on track to meet speaker ryan s deadline on that next thursday on nafta. we are continuing in the conversations and we have made progress. hopefully we will get there. by thursday is the president willing to revisit this after the elections in mexico and the mid terms? we will let you know. kristen. a follow up on one of my colleagues, to be clear, doescaly sadler still work at this white house. yes, shes to. to follow up, more broadly, does the president set the tone or bear responsible for the tone in this white house? the president as i mentioned just a moment ago supports all americans. if you look at what he is doing every single day, he is showing up to work. he s working hard to make this country better. whether it s through building our economy, creating jobs, defeegt isis, fixing our judiciary system, helping with illegal immigration problems that we have the president is addressing a number of issues. that is what our focus is. that is what we are doing here every day. and that is what the president has i think laid out very clearly what his interests are. my question is a little different. does he bear responsibility for the tone set here at the white house and all of the staffers who work here frankly. certainly does. and i think he has done a good job of laying out what the priorities of the administration are and that what they are doing is helping impact americans all across the country. sorry kristen i have got to keep moving. so many of us have spoken to people who said they have heard these comments, do you say they are lying? are they lying. go ahead. sarah, general kelly came out and endorsed in an npr issue a pathway to citizenship for temporary restrictive status for people who have been in the united states for some time. does the president share the general s view on that. i haven t seen that specific comment from the interview. i know that the president and general kelly want to fix the system. did jen alkyly oppose the administration s push to actually give a deadline to some people who have been here over 20 years to leave the country? i would have to look at the comment before i could weigh in. right here. go ahead. thank you sarah. south korea has a huge stake in whatever kim and trump agree upon. will president moon or another representative of south korea be at the talks? i don t believe there are plans for them to be part of that specific day. but certainly have been a partner in this entire process. and as you know, president moon will be here on the 22nd to continue those conversations. and we continue to be in lock step with the south koreans. unt hunter. on monday the president tweeted quote the fake news is working overtime and said 91% of the news about me is negative, parentheses fake. do you have views about whether all the stories about the president are fake? no. why would he say that? i will take one more question. to follow up on the payments that michael cohen received from at&t and novartis. you said this is a sign that the president won t be influenced. but just to clarify, does the president think it is appropriate for his personal attorney to be collecting payments from private companies, presumably saying that or presumably promising to influence policy or to give them strategy on government policy? i think the bigger point is that the president is isn t going to be influenced by outside special interests. he is going to do what he finds to be in the best interests of americans across the country. thanks guy, hope you have a great weekend. and a happy mother s day. sarah huckabee sanders ending her press briefing. she started with the health and human services secretary on prescription drugs, then she want to questions saying about the comments made reportedly made about john mccain she is not going to comment on an internal meeting. she took a few questions on that and swatted down any ability to get a real answer from it and said that they respect all americans in the white house. did not specifically offer any apology, clarity, or embrace of john mccain. kristen welker trying to get to the bottom of not only whether it was set or what the general tone is, how the tone is set in the the white house. tell me about the exchange you had with sarah? first to the big question, ali, which is does selly sadler, the staffer here, who made those comments, essential saying john mccain s vote, he is quote, dying anyway. does she still have a job? one of my colleagues asked that question. sanders dodged initially. i went back and asked again. she was brief. she said yes. then i asked her, basically, does the president bear responsibility for the tone here at the white house. of course in the past he has criticized matter in mccain. that goes back to the campaign trail. he said i like people would don t get captured. he is a p.o.w. someone regarded as a war hero. a lot of people thought it was going to be the end of then candidate trump s campaign. he went on to win the primary. the two men have had a fraught relationship. listen to my we to sarah huckabee sanders. does the president bear responsibility for the tone set in this white house tmplg president as i mentioned just a moment ago supports all americans. if you look at what he s doing every single day, he is showing up to work, he is working hard to make this country better, whether it s through building our economy, creating jobs, defeating isis, fixing our judiciary system, helping with the i will league immigration problems that we have. the president is addressing a number of issues. that is what our focus is, that is what we are doing here every day. and that is what the president has i think laid out very clearly what his interests are. my question is different. does he bear responsibility for the tone set here and all of the staffers? he does, i think he has done a good job laying out what the it is proo of the administration are and what they are doing is helping impact americans all across the country. sorry kristen, i have got to keep moving on. so many of us have said they heard these comments. are they lying, sarah. go ahead. so an attempt to ask her again, if in fact the white house is making the case that the comments weren t said, they are not doing that, ali. that s what is so remarkable. they are not denying that these comments were stated. i was a part of a team of reporters that confirmed it with nbc news overnight. and we have three sources with direct knowledge of the conversation who essentially heard this person make this comment. so i asked her frankly, are all of these people lying? and she wouldn t answer the question. i think that is what makes this remarkable. the white house showing no signs that sadler is going anywhere. but certainly, the criticism continues and continues to mount. and continues to raise real questions again about the tone within this administration. when you have a president who has not refrained from lashing out at some of his some of the people who he has challenged, whether it be on capitol hill or elsewhere, ali. it is kind of interesting. because this is one one of those things that good communications people can actually tachblt there are a lot of people saying acknowledge, apologize and move on. now it s become something different. kristen welker in the white house. in the last hour president trump unveiled a plan to tackle an issue since he talked about since the presidential campaign. that is the rising cost of prescription drugs. the american people deserve a health care system that takes care of them. not one that taxes and takes advantage of our patients and our consumers and our citizens. these reforms are just the beginning. okay. here s what the president is calling for. stopping manufacturers were the regulatory process. disk medicare plan d sponsors more power when negotiating with drug manufacturers. requiring manufacturers to include list prices in advertising. this all sounds good. is it going to do anything to reduce drug prices? this is a subject i like talking about. let s look at the problem. according to the department of health and human services the united states spence $300 billion a year on prescription drugs. makes sense. we are an industrialized society and an aging population. medicare and medicaid account for 40% of the prescription drug spending. medicare is the largest buyer of prescription drugs in this nation. it s actually bigger than many nations spend on drugs. here in the united states, drug manufacturers are allowed to set their own prizes and they raise them as much as they want. drug companies say the higher prices help them fund research and investment making the united states a leader in bringing new drugs to the global marketplace. critics say it makes drugs less accessible to people who need them the most. the president say americans pay more for prescription drugs because foreign governments can export low prices from drug companies. this is nonsense. laws in canada and other places with universal health systems allow them to negotiate drug prices. the federal government is banned from negotiating cheaper prices. this isn t about other countries. this is about a law that prevent medicare from negotiating lower prices. the president also went after the pharmaceutical and health care lobbies which spend millions of dollars on lobbying. pharma, according to the center for responsive politics, it has spend $26 million in 2017. already this year, it s spend more than $10 million. obviously they going to ramp up now. joining us to talk about this is georgia republican congressman buddy carter. i love talking to congressman carter for many reasons, one of which is because he was the only pharmacist serving in the united states congress. he was there when the president made his announcent in. alex azar understands the industry. he was the president of eli lily in america. the president carrying on about other country s extorting has to be put in context. the american government can t negotiate prices the canadian government can negotiate prices with pharmaceutical. is that the heart of the problem? i m not sure it is the heart of the problem. i think what the president is also saying that intellectual property research and development that we americans pay for is being stolen essentially by other countries and they are using it and getting cheaper prices on these medications that we have to pay so much for. ali, today is a great day for american consumers. this is a president who truly gets it. he understands what common people are struggling with. the tax cuts and jobs act. now addressing prescription drug prices what we have done to increase our military spending. all those things are things that people were concerned with here in america. i don t get as much a chance to talk to you as i like. i want the stay focused on prescription drugs for a minute. sure. i agree with you, i don t think that negotiation is the heart of the problem. i do think pharmacy ben fete managers and the middle man as the president calls them might be a bigger part of the problem. listen to what the president said about that today. we are also increasing competition and reducing regulatory burdens so drugs can be gotten to the market quicker and cheaper. we are very much eliminating the middlemen. the middlemen became very, very rich. i don t find myself agreeing with the president of the united states all that often but the milledmen are a big part of issue. it doesn t exist anywhere else in the world. there is no pharmacy benefit managers in the way they are in the united states anywhere else in the world. how on earth do you get rid of them? well we can get rid of them. again, here s a president who truly understands. i have always said, the most immediate, the most significant impact we can have on prescription drug prices is to have transparency. the pmbms, the middlemen, if you ask them what s your mission? they will say it is to keep prescription drug prices low. it s not working out well for you at all. they bring no value to the system whatsoever. what they do is increase the price of the medications and don t pass the discounts on to patients to the consumers. what s the solution? let s think big. how do you make drug prices more accessible to consumers while ensuring the drug companies make money so they can continue to develop drugs. you know, they make the argument they make lots of drugs, done make money on some of them, they need to have blockbuster drugs and they have got to get a lot of money. what s the recipe for success here, as a guy who is pharmacist who has had to deal with customers who probably have had some difficulty paying for their medication what s the answer for you? transparency. no question about it. that s the key here. that s all we have ever also for with the middle men, the pbms is show us, show us what is happening here. why is it when i speak to the ever inner of epipen, when i ask them when it leaves you how much does it cost? $150. i said when it gets to me the pharmacist it s $600? what happened in between? what happened there? do you think when you talk about transparency i think of stories we have done in the last several years about drugs that were increased in price by hundreds of percent. the shaming certainly from the media didn t often cause companies to do anything about it. what is the feeling that if they are transparent about pricing what will happen? there will be public pressure to reduce prices? people can t boycott their cancer medication? you are exactly right. what will happen is that what the president has proposed is to have the discounts applied at point of sale. let the patient see the discount when they buy the medication. that will make all the difference in the world. what s the problem with the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are some of the biggest will beyists in our part of town? lobbyists in your part of town. they have influence. they are able to give talking points to members of congress that prevented legislation from going into effect that allow the american government, medicare part d sponsors to negotiate prices. again, the president kept talking about other countries. i come from canada, where they do negotiate the price of drugs, because that s what they can do. that s what the president proposed. he identified that today. he said look we need to be able to negotiation on behalf of as you pointed out earlier, the largest payer the biggest payer in the whole drug system is medicare. and they need to be able to negotiate prices as well. and that s part of what the president and secretary azar are proposing. representative buddy carter thank you for joining us. the only pharmacist serving in the united states congress. did president trump almost lose a is her inability to secu our borders? nielsen a protege of chief of staff john kelly reportedly told colleagues she was going to resign. the white house is pushing back on that story. we ll have the details after the break. you re watching msnbc s. 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i think as you remember, back in february the senate actually tried to debate immigration and kicked around some different proposals. but at the end of the day none of they have were able to advance. and part of that is what the white house is asking for. i mean, they have a four-pillar plan that involves cutting legal immigration in half. and that s just not palatable to most democrats. actually all democrats in the senate. and then also to many republicans, moderate republicans as well. so, unless there is some flexibility with that plan, it seems unlikely that there is some kind of immigration legislation that is going to be reached in the next few months. well, you re the perfect guy to ask this to. you deal with employment and immigration. when the president carries on about 4, 5, 6% gdp growth, we have squeezed all the productivity we can squeeze out of workers. the only way to get higher gdp growth it s labor and productivity. the concept of cutting legal immigration into america doesn t square with what most economists think you need to grow the economy. that is absolutely right. i mean, i think most economists would say cutting legal immigration will lower gdp, gross domestic product. but that being said, the administration, when they ve gone out and argued for this proposal, they said it s not just about growing the economy and gdp. that it s also cultural and it s about who is coming into the country and how that can change the culture of the united states. very interesting topic, ted. we ll continue the conversation. i like having it with you. ted hess en is a politico immigration reporter. let s look at markets. the markets are ready for let s see where they are now. as of yesterday we had a six-day winning streak. looks like we re going to have a seven-day winning streak. you can see the dow just after 2:00 was down just a little bit, but it has recovered nicely. we are not up to where we were at the beginning of the year. this market has taken a beating in the first quarter of this year. but we are we re doing okay. we re getting back there. we re continuing to cover that with you. where you are winning on the market. you may be losing on gas prices, though. oil continues to set record highs. so, that s it for me. that wraps up the hour for me. i m going to see you back here tonight. thank you for watching. have a great weekend. deadline white house with nicolle wallace starts right now. /s hi, everyone.
i am going to make the great teas deals. i do deals. i deal. i negotiate by creating leverage. so i can extract a good deal for the united states. for the people. everybody wants me to negotiate. i am so anxious to negotiate. nobody can outnegotiate these deals. i am a great deal maker. we don t make great deals anymore. but i will. we are going to win, and win and win. well, we ll see. more now on all of this from pamela brown joining us now from the white house. do we know what changed? now 24 hours later optimism from t train from the test site. the insult hurled. the north koreans now, it seems they could work with the united states. and that is why you saw that statement. they said president trump was brave for taking steps. and willing to talk with the united states at any time. north korean diplomats have re-opened. and trying to see if they can work out and make something happen. to make this summit occur on june 12th. so what happens now? what are the next steps? they can agree to have the summit. but any indication that north korea is willing to move towards the key issue which is actual denuclearization? reporter: i can tell you over many visits to this country over the last several years, they told me they will never give up their nuclear weapons. what we have seen in the recent months have been a u-turn. he has said he is willing to discuss denuclearization in exchange for what they consider hostile policy. they would like to see them all withdrawn. not happy about the american nuclear umbrella. they want the united states to take steps along with the north koreans. they don t think it as a process of a matter of months, but a longer term process. and china shares that view that it is not going to be something that happens overnight. thanks very much. perspective now from two people with long experience in the peninsula. and korea chair at the national studies. and rear admiral john kirby. does this drama, the please call me now, everything is warm and produ productive. does that lay the groundwork for an incredible summit? this whiplash, caught north koreans by surprised. they expect no u.s. president would act this way. but north koreans never wanted to cancel this meeting. the two previous statements that we were making was a protest between libya deal. libya is a nightmare scenario, but they never wanted to cancel the meeting. kim jong-un wants this meeting. their last statement that came out seven hours after trump cancelling the meeting. i have never seen such a statement before. personally praising president trump. so there is an incentive for these two leaders to meet. and i think it is going to happen. admiral kirby, i can hear supporters saying this is trump deal maker. in your experience, you were a rear admiral in the pentagon, do those tactics apply in a sensitive international discussion about nuclear weapons? i don t know if those tactics will work well once the summit happens and sitting down across from each other. nothing more complicated. you really have to know your detail. for getting ready for a summit. i think this tactic will work. he pulled a kim on kim. kim was threatening i am not going to go for the olympics. we pulled the rug out and said we are not going to come and all of a sudden, things were getting on the schedule and it could happen. but in terms of a successful summit, that is a different matter. dr. terry, you can make the summit happen if both leaders wanted. but on the issues that they are goi going to negotiate here, will north korea denuclearize by definition of denuclearize. particularly a regime that views nuclear weapons as a way of survival. as will talked about, denuclearization for north korea means something different. it has all kinds of implications for alliances with south korea, our true presence, our nuclear umbrella. we have a big gap of what we think of do yenuclearization, a what they believe it is. i don t know how we will bridge that gap. i really don t know how we will bridge the gap but up to the two leaders. we will find out soon. better for them to sit down than be threatening and shooting at each other. one official said june 12th is in minutes. summit preparation for any head of state meeting is a huge under taking and takes a lot of detail planning. even in the best of circumstances when the two heads of states are friendly, it is difficult. june 12th was ten minutes away when trump agreed. i am heartened to hear that the back channels are back in place. i suspect there wasn t that much of a gap given the kerr fluffle in the last couple of days. thanks very much. learning more about the chief white house defense lawyer at a meeting what many believe he had no business being. later, we are learning about a man called a hero and we will show you why. ooh, heaven is a place on earth uhp. i didn t believe it. again. ooh, baby, do you know what that s worth? i want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ooh i m not hearing the confidence. okay, hold the name your price tool. power of options based on your budget! and! we ll make heaven a place on earth yeah! oh, my angels! ooh, heaven is a place on earth [ sobs quietly ] desire for as much openness as possible under the law. only the staffer did not use stuff. a white house official was telling cnn jim acosta that flood and kelly s presence did not help with the concerns of being politicized. a source telling gjim acosta. we should note that a separate administration source says it was always the plan for them to leave after kelly s remarks. our two next guests, jeffre toobin and professor allen dershowitz. why is it appropriate for flood for him to be at this meeting yesterday? well if i am a defense lawyer i try to be at any meeting i am not kicked out of. their job of the defense lawyer is to find out anything he can in whatever way he can as long as it is legal and ethical and the other side is prepared to let him listen. if there is anyone to blame it is the people who let him into the meeting. rudy giuliani assumes that flood was in the meeting because the president wanted him to be. does this give the appearance that the white house is trying to abuse their authority. i don t know about abuse their authority, but this whole enterprise, this fake controversy about a spy is about one thing, it is about discrediting the mueller investigation. and potentially leading to his firing. it has nothing to do with civil liberties or with fairness. it is a splittpolitical attack mueller that flood was trying to gather information, in a way that traditionally has not been allowed. and that is the moment we are in now. this remains a political matter above all. professor dershowitz, do you agree. this is right out of the playbook that the clinton used. i played a small role in consulting with clinton s lawyers during that event. and obviously the clinton s approach was two fold. one, to try to use legal means to prevent what is happening from happening and to discredit starr. and if it ever went to impeachment, to make it a blue reddi /red issue. you are right, they tried to fight back by legal means. you are right that they tried to make it a political controversy. what the clinton people did not do is invent lies. this president saying there was a spy and this is worse than watergate. the level of lies that trump has used in this effort to attack mueller is a quantum difference than what the clintons did. and it is important to preserve that tradition. let s start with spy. all civil libertarians should be concerns. an anti war movement, the martin luther king campaign. we all complained civil libertarians. i cover intelligence and national security, there was no person in the campaign, confidential the russians offering dirt on hillary clinton to them an informant had a conversation with them. jeffrey, to your knowledge, is that a fair equation that the professor is making here between past examples of the fbi, you know, putting spies inside antiwar movement, et cetera. allen, it is wonderful to talk about the abuses of power of martin luther king, and the anti war movement, it has nothing to do with what happened here. they tried to get martin luther king to kill himself. and here, there were a couple of conversations between george pop do dop louse and this confidential informer. but to call this as the president has worst than watergate is preposterous and it is our job to call it out. i agree with you. it is nowhere near watergate. but it is also not nothing. i have no problem with at least inquiring. i think trump overstates it when he says it is worst than watergate, and that is what presidents and presidential campaigns and people who are being investigated do. you are normalizing trump s behavior and it is not the same on what other president s do. i am criticizing his behavior. i as a civil libertarians has a right to be concerned jeff, fair to have that public inquiry? absolutely not. there is a tradition and a rule within the justice department that they do not disclose the witnesses or investigative techniques about pending investigations. this is an active case and what rod rosenstein has done to try to protect his job in a way to try to protect mueller s job is to bend the rules and give the house republicans and give the president access to information that they have no right to. and this i don t agree with that. at this stage in the investigation, absolutely not. and this is why. i don t agree with that. i know you don t agree with it. this is an example of how they are using their political power to get things they are entitled to. fantastic discussion between professor and student. happy holiday to everybody. thanks very much. david axelrod has a great panel on. sally yates is going to be his guest and here is a preview. what do you make of the president s demand of the justice department that they investigate the investigation of that involves his campaign and perhaps him? this has taken the assault on the rule of law to a new level. president trump has not observed the time honored norm to be in place at least since watergate that there should be a division between the department of justice and the white house. and it is not just directing a criminal investigation or to stop one of anyone. it directly relates to his campaign. that is truly unprecedented. you can see the entire conversation on the ax files saturday 7:00 p.m. eastern time. coming up about a russian oligarch who met with president s personal attorney. when we continue details of that meeting as well as implications. oligarch showed up at trump tower to meet with michael cohen 11 days before the inauguration. that was three days after then fbi director james comey came. his company then paid cohen. shimon joins me now. yet another meeting in trump tower tied. what are you learning now why this meeting took place. folks say this was what is not clear is why victor vekselberg would didn t have any say as far as we know in the transition or any policy that the president was going to institute. what is interesting about this meeting is it lasted about 30 minutes. we are told a quick meeting. came in and spoke with michael cohen and went up to his office and then left. also, just days before the meeting, andrew intrater donated money. it was sometime after this meeting that his company hired michael cohen for his work. you mentioned michael cohen didn t have a formal role, and was not part of the transition team. are the people who took part in this meeting, these russians, are they cooperating in the investigation? we know that both have been questioned. and victor vekselberg was the man who came to new york was met by fbi agents. they took his electronics and there was some questioning of him. he hasn t been cooperating with the fbi. he has been sanctioned. and the sanction came after the meeting with the fbi with the mueller team. andrew intrater has also been questioned by the fbi. and he answered some of those questions. people say he has been cooperative. but overall, what is important is that you yet have another russian, vekselberg specifically, close ties with putin. and is now scrutinizing. thanks very much. joining me now is jennifer rogers, and norm eisen. is this an optics problem? or do you see legal issues here? we don t know yet what the answers to the questions are. but there are profound legal and ethical and national security questions that surround thkpoor pattern. and we know that an american company associated with vekselberg columbus nova pays hundreds of thousands of dollars to michael cohen. so there could be serious issues. possible quid pro questions. one thing we can be confident of is federal prosecutors are on the case and looking into it. and we will get answers. but troubling. whenever one of these meetings come up, we should remind people when there were first reports, they were denied, any meetings whatsoever. jen, on the points of payments, they deny that any payments came to cohen directly to vekselberg, if that is true, does that limit his exposure. i imagine payments could be funneled to him. is that a buffer there? well, we will see. originally when the news came out about columbus nova, they said vekselberg had nothing to do with it. and there is still a lot to look into about whether vekselberg was involved and to what extent. but a potential problem. something that comes up is something known as the foreign registration act. if you work for a foreign agency, you would volunteer that register that. how does that relate to the laws? well, in order to be guilty of the farra. if it actually is him lobbying on behalf of vekselberg, and it has to do with something. he has to say let me represent your case. and if he is lobbying without registering that is a violation. not working for the transition at the time. and is not worked for the u.s. government of course he has a close relationship with the sitting president of the united states. does that insulate the administration? it depends on what context he had with the administration. what access he had to the president or those around him. and what deals he did or did not strike with them. whether there is any quid pro quos. and it will depend on the evidence. there is some reason to ask hard questions. why did this vekselberg linked company, vekselberg entity is the largest client of this american company. suddenly in the presidential transition agree to a million dollar contract with michael cohen? 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is there a plan or is it reactive? trump playing trump here to some degree? there isn t usually a plan. it is a lot of tactics but not a grand map. a lot of this is playing off of whatever is playing in front of him. when says we ll see what happens, it is a filler. what you see is what is there. and that is the case here. so we had, on another issue, another case where the white house initial story turns out not to be accurate. deals with john kelly, and emmett flood showing up on this classified briefing. and the white house said yesterday, listen, they were always going to leave after making an initial statement. cnn reporting they might have wanted to say. i don t have that confirmed on my own, but it is not surprising. this is exactly the type of, you know, pushing of the lines or trying to erase the lines. what we have seen this white house do. particularly into the investigation of this president or campaign. and this is the latest in the series. i heard from a lot of people on the congress side or legal side how inappropriate it would be to have emmett flood in particular there, not good to have john kelly there either. but the kind of intermingling that we saw the other day. again, with this president, he will constantly push to see how far he can reset the limit and if people don t stop him, he will go through. it will happen again. thanks very much. coming up, the latest from hawaii where the lava is causing severe danger. hearing from a man who protected homes with little than a garden hose until he got hit with a lava bomb. spray relieves 6 symptoms. claritin-d relieves 8, including sinus congestion and pressure. claritin-d relieves more. . . . if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, little things can be a big deal. that s why there s otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it s a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, . with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don t use if you re allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you re pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. feet in the air, people, of course, being encouraged to stay away from areas where lava is entering the pacific ocean. by now you probably heard about a man severely injured by what is called a lava bomb. darryl clinton lucky to be alive. cnn scott mclean has the story. reporter: it is a beautiful place, a place that feels very alive. it was two decades ago that steve hill found his slice of hawaiian paradise and two weeks ago he came to grips with losing it. you left this place fully expecting not to come home to it. lost, lost, lost. reporter: hill an his wife packed up their furniture and left for the main land. he even left a shot of gin on the deck for pele, the hawaiian volcano goddess, assuming the gin and his home would be swallowed up. we left feeling heartbroken. reporter: his contractor and close friend darryl clinton had other ideas. might want to step back on this one. reporter: just one week ago, cnn was with clinton while he was defending hill s homes against flying chunks of molten lava. windows had already been destroyed, so had the walter catchment tank. some lava bombs even came crashing through the roof. armed with little more than a garden ho gua garden hose, he doused the house. these flaming ones are the ones that catch the ceiling on fire. reporter: the 24/7 task was difficult and even more dangerous. after almost a week, hill told clinton to leave and let the houses burn. can t do this. this is unsafe. it is time to stop. valiant effort. i m humbled by how hard you ve tried. reporter: but clinton didn t leave until the next day, and it wasn t by choice. a line-drive lava bomb broke his leg, severed an artery and nearly took his foot off. took my leg out and threw me against the wall. it was the most extreme force i felt in my life. reporter: the extreme heat burned up the deck, the wall and almost an entire dining set, but thanks to a fast-acting neighbor with a water jug, the house survived and so did darryl. reporter: you are blessed with neighbors like that. hill returned to hawaii to find his homes and friend who helped build them badly in need of repairs. when darryl is done rebuilding himself, we will get on to rebuilding houses. reporter: he is a journeyman? 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that s all the time we have. i hand it over to don lemon. 360 will be back tomorrow. this is cnn tonight. i m don lemon. the magnitude of this day is unbelievable. it is historic. it is a moment when our country is on the brink. on the brink of what could turn into a constitutional crisis and potentially on the brink of military acts in syria. a furious president trump surrounded by grim-faced military leaders in what was planned to be a meeting of syria, his arms folded, blasted the fbi raid today on his personal attorney michael cohen. i just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, good man, and it s a disgraceful situation. it s a total witch hunt. i ve been saying it for a long time. i ve wanted to keep it down. we ve given, i believe, over a million pages worth of documents to the special counsel. so let me be absolutely clear about this. the president is absolutely wrong. nobody broke into michael cohen s office. and nobody, not even the president, is above the law. a dozen fbi agents armed with search warrants legally seized documents from cohen s office, his hotel room, and reportedly his home. a source telling cnn those documents are related to stormy daniels. another source telling cnn the search warrant was very broad and included bank records. but ominously, president trump views this as an attack on him and on the country. sources telling cnn tonight that the cohen raid sent the president over the edge, because his attorney is like a surrogate family member. it s a disgrace. it s frankly a real disgrace. it s an attack on our country and it s an attack on what we all stand for. so when i saw this and when i heard it, i heard it like you did. i said, that is really now on a whole new level of unfairness. so he believes it s unfair and it s an attack on him. and he believes it s politically motivated. never mind that these are the facts. it s his own hand-picked deputy attorney general overseeing the mueller investigation. and today s raid was authorized by the u.s. attorney in manhattan who was hand-picked by guess who? president trump. they found no collusion whatsoever with russia. the reason they found it is there was no collusion at all. no collusion. this is the most biased group of people. these people have the biggest conflicts of interest i ve ever seen. democrats all, just about all, the democrats are a couple republicans that worked for president obama. do you see the body language there? the mueller investigation is not over. so the president is wrong, wrong when he claims they found no collusion. and the fact is, robert mueller is a republican. but sources warn the president s anger could lead to him firing mueller. why don t i just fire mueller? yes, fire the guy. well, i think it s a disgrace what s going on. we ll see what happens, but i think it s a really sad situation when you look at what happened. many people have said, you should fire him. again, they found nothing. and in finding nothing, that s a big statement. remember the investigation is not over yet. they haven t found nothing. and it s not just mueller who could be on the president s austin, you heard the president. he is angry. cnn is reporting the raids on michael cohen s office, reporting a raid on one of his homes as well. at least a dozen fbi agents involved. this is aggressive. it s aggressive, but i think we need to be clear about what was going on here. this would have been executed pursuant to a search warrant, which means that the fbi obtained permission from a judge to enter these facilities. they would have had to show probable cause that in these locations and in specified places, documents, devices, they were going to find evidence of a crime. and a judge would have had to agree to that in order for them to do it. this was i think calling it a break-in is really characterizing this as something that it s not. and the crimes here apparently are related to bank fraud, which is obtaining money through illegal means from a financial institution, and potentially campaign finance violations, likely contributions that would have been disclosed as required by law. let s talk a little more about that, because our gloria borger is reporting that the search warrant was related to stormy daniels, and search warrant was very broad in terms of items sought and the search included bank records. why do a raid like this instead of calling up michael cohen s attorney and saying, we need you to turn everything over? i think there is a false assumption that everything is handled, when you re talking about courts of law with gentlemen s agreements saying, why don t you fight this in a court of law? they may not be comprehensively giving you everything you need, so you have the right to get a search warrant, especially since there could be something fleetingly going away, like certain documents. don t confuse the two investigations. this was a referral by special counsel mueller handed over to an independent u.s. attorney who is of manhattan, somebody who was chosen by the president. the president actually had a hand of interviewing, much to the chagrin of many people, who replaced the people he fired just last year. the reason that s significant here is that there is an illusion that somehow mueller has been orchestrating this entire thing. what happened is a referral meaning, i may have seen something. this may interest you. it is not within my particular mandate. if you would like to, or you feel so desired to do so, please investigate it. it was not a mandate for the sdny u.s. attorney to do anything about it. it showed an exercise of prosecutorial discretion, and backed up by more than just mueller. a magistrate and the sdny attorney. so the president has conflated the term to be a witch hunt to include these two things that are quite distinct. quick question before i go to michael. the attorney-client privilege, does it apply here or not apply here, laura? we have to see, because every communication between michael cohen and donald trump did not necessarily fall under privilege. it would have to be counsel sought him on legal advice. if someone was in the room on a communication, cc in some way, it would not apply. and if the communication between the attorney and the client was somehow in furtherance of a crime, then poof, it goes away, would not be honored. this is not up to mueller, this is up to a court of law to decide. michael, you ve worked with mueller, correct? yeah. i ve got a couple questions for you here. the first one is why would the southern district of new york be investigating or looking into possible election crimes? because it s a crime to willfully violate the federal election laws. and they were given a referral, it appears, from mueller to say that this may be ongoing and worth your inquiry. we don t know also, though, whether or not this pre exists mueller s investigation. it could well be that the stormy daniels aspect of this is one aspect. there may be other women similarly situated or other people similarly situated that the investigation was ongoing, just like we had in flynn, where it was ongoing when mueller stepped into it. he found something additional. it was related. he passed it on. the rule of law was upheld and the process was adhered to. and so that s what prosecutors do. they look at crime and make prosecutorial decisions about whether it s worth prosecuting. and mueller can t if he finds something that looks like a crime or something unusual, he just can t ignore it, right? that s right. and if the reporting is accurate and it s early and we have to be very careful to not be, you know, too far ahead of ourselves, but if mueller came across something he thought needed a criminal investigation and worthy of inquiry and it s outside his mandate, then he is to go to rosenstein. rosenstein then makes the decision whether to leave it with mueller and expand the mandate, or take other action as appropriate. it appears from the reporting that he felt other action is appropriate, was the appropriate step to take, and he gave it to new york. then what laura said, because she said don t conflate or confuse the two. these are different investigations. this raid was actually referred, as we said, by mueller to the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. then on top of that was authorized by the u.s. attorney in manhattan, jeffrey or jeff b b berman, who is the president s own pick for that office. so the idea that this is a witch hunt just seems ridiculous. if you look at the deciding officials that would be involved in a case like this, and you have to remember, don, that when you go into an attorney s office, it really requires permissions at the highest level. so you probably had christopher wray, the head of the fbi, rod rosenstein, the acting attorney general. the interim u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, berman, and the head of the criminal division in the main justice department, all of whom are seasoned lawyers, all of them happen to be republicans, which i think is irrelevant, but the notion that that crew would somehow conspire to engage in a witch hunt against the president s lawyer for allegations of campaign finance violations doesn t hold true to me. i agree that it s relevant, but i think it s important to point out that the president keeps saying it s a witch hunt, it s the democrats, why aren t you looking at hillary clinton or barack obama, when these are his own hand-picked people. i don t know who is better to answer this, if it s osha or if it s laura. the reason i ask why didn t the federal government investigate this, would that be the eeoc? is that laura? i ll jump in, mike. it s true it is the fbc. the notion that the fbc has been a toothless dog when it comes to a lot of these cases, because you have to have the majority rule but also have to be unanimous issues about these very issues, about campaign finance, et cetera. even when they had the opportunity like the john edwards case to look at these examples of what may be campaign contributions, this counsel don mcgann was on the committee and he said, let s not go ahead and prosecute this the same way, although it ended up having an acquittal and hung jury. the fact that you have these kids being wrang he would by the fbi or the fbc could be because they ve been a notable toothless dog in some ways. she can speak all of next segment. the justice department and the fec have concurrent jurisdiction in matters such as this. the fec does the civil side of it, the u.s. attorneys does the criminal side of it. they both have concurrent jurisdictions, one criminal, one civil. osha, he keeps saying this was a break-in. these are anything but unlawful. this was anything but unlawful. this was a break-in raid, correct? this was pursuant to a search warrant. one thing going off what laura said that the president needs to understand is that this is happening. the fact this has referred to was beyond mueller. it s not going to stop the investigations. it s not going to stop the investigations coming out of other offices across the country. if mueller goes himself, the same thing will happen when he fired comey. these are now in the criminal justice system. judges have seen the evidence. search warrants have been issued. grand juries have been on it, indictments have been done. i think he is sorely mistaken if he thinks that getting rid of mueller will stop anything that s already been started in our justice system. she has spoken. don t go away. we have much more to come on the raid. the break-in of michael cohen couldn t have come at a worst time when the trump team is coming up empty. lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350 and a quiet interior from which to admire them. the lincoln spring sales event is here. for a limited time get zero percent apr on the lincoln mkx. hurry in today to your lincoln dealer. in birds eye protein blends. ok. they re delicious side dishes with the protein of beans, whole grains. .and veggies! mmm, good. my work here is dooooone! bird s eye protein blends. so veggie good. janice, mom told me you bought a house. okay. 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we need to understand that when mueller has an appointment with rosenstein, he has a subject kind of scoped. if he encounters something that s beyond the scope, he doesn t just shrug his shoulders and walk away. what if he discovers a human trafficking ring or pornography? does he say, oh, that s beyond my scope, carry on! no. the department of justice is required by law to investigate any evidence of criminal activity. so it will be passed on, as it was in this case. what this tells me is that rosenstein is actually taking his oversight responsibilities very seriously. he s not allowing mueller to continue something that might be very far outside his scope, not letting him cross that red line. instead he is allowing the regular prosecutors in the appropriate offices of the department of justice go along with this. and again, in this case it s a u.s. attorney that was interviewed by trump himself. so, again, as i mentioned before, he will be disappointed if he believes that getting rid of mueller or rosenstein or sessions is in any way going to stop this ball from rolling. this is coming at a time when the president s legal team is really diminished, and some say frankly they are outgunned by mueller s team. is that the way you see it, laura? i see the time ing is very curious given last week the president looking to sit down with mueller and his professional team. yet again you have someone conflating two issues, most likely investigations, with the hope that if you undermine the credibility of the investigation, it will give the president of the united states political cover to possibly say either he won t voluntarily sit down with that team per advice of counsel, or he ll be subpoenaed by mueller and his team and will be able to plead the fifth and say, it s not political suicide here. what i m doing is not going to answer questions in a witch hunt because we know that mueller is farming things out for fig leaf purposes as well. i think the fact he had his diminishing legal team is only going to exacerbate the president s narrative that for him to feel he has cover that mueller is run ning a witch hun and he s trying to hoodwink the entire american public, none of which have played out in the facts. so it was told to lou dobbs that he wants to consider impeachment. and the grounds for impeachment is following the law? it s not really a sensible position. what rod rosenstein did is what he swore under oath to do, which is uphold the law, as did christopher wray. the base of it, it appears, is they don t like how they re exercising their constitutional obligations because it is pillaring someone that they like politically. that s not what impeachment is about. that doesn t meet any one standard of definition of a high-crime misdemeanor style abuse of office, so i think it s rhetorically sort of convenient but not practically doable. what kind of charges can come from all of this? go on. i was just going to point out that increasingly, the deep state is consisting almost entirely of republicans, which is very odd. and i think that should be a clue that the only deep state that exists right now is the deep state of denial in the white house and among his lawyers that this is getting very bad for them. and he needs to get better legal advice on how to handle it, including potentially not talking about obstruction of justice on television like he did today. michael, what did you want to say? i m agreeing with asha for sure. i think the whole criminal justice system works best when each side is well represented. i think it behooves the president so take a step back, find a competent team so they can address the issues that are raised in a prudent, lawful and sober way, and i think we ll all be advantaged by that. there is no good in having a president without representation adequate to those who are looking into allegations of wrongdoing. i just hope he steps back, finds good counsel, lets them build a team for him, let them meet with mueller and make a forward path sobek get this resolved and behind us, whatever that is. hey, laura, two things if you can answer quickly. what kind of charges might stem from this? from michael cohen, you re looking at possibly bank fraud or tax-related issues, perhaps campaign finance issues. the president doesn t seem to have an exact link to this yet so i can t state what charges will be brought against him or anyone else. you talked about these kinds of cases, attorney-client privilege, can be waived. has this come up before? the notion of a waiver bwoul be different. that s saying i do not want my client to be held to that amount of silence. it will not protect communications. if they re made to forward a crime or hide criminal activity. also the notion that it can only exist if it was between the attorney and client. not outside entourages, not third parties who are around, not anybody who was bc d or cc d around it. just one on one, no one else around in furtherance of legal advice, they ll be protected. if it s about business or anything else could he talk to michael cohen now and it would be privileged? he could talk about issues, but i suspect there is a cone of silence they ll want to put between him and michael cohen at this point in time, because he had a great degree of exposure, and the president wants to have a 10-foot pole between them who he calls a good man. when we come back, it s like 1998 all over again. remember bill clinton and monica lewinsky? are we seeing a much bigger sex scandal that will rock this white house? 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this is about mueller s investigation. that s disingenuous, don, let s be honest. your show and this network for months and months have screamed russia, russia, russia. guess what? there s nothing there that connects to president trump. how do you know? are you part of the investigation? how do you know that? no, no, no, no, no. how do you know that? are you part of this investigation? no, because if you take 20 lawyers, biased lawyers who hate the president, tens of millions of dollars, the full investigatory power of the united states government and you can t find anything after a year of having been investigating the people who are running this investigation were hand-picked by the president of the united states, skand many o the people who are running this investigation or part of this investigation are also republicans. how did all of a sudden robert mueller, who is beloved by the right wing and donald trump and everyone, all of a sudden become a pariah because he s all of a sudden doing his job? being a republican hardly means you re in favor of president trump. he says it s a witch hunt by the democrats, and he says most of the people on the team are either democrats or have donated to democratic entities. they re republicans who can t stand the president, and by the way, i think the republicans sadly are as complicit in what s going on now in terms of these swamp tactics as the democrats are. let me just be very blunt. the president needs to fire jeff sessions. he needs to fire rosenstein. he needs to fire mueller. this is a sham investigation. this is his own justice department trying to usurp the power of the presidency. if the congress wants to investigate this, they re a co-equal branch, go at it. but his own justice department if he s innocent, why would he fire those people? it s not about innocence. it s because they re creating a witch hunt atmosphere that s really, in many ways, i think reminiscent of what we see in dictatorships. when you raid the president of the united states private attorneys, residents and offices, and when you say we re going to pierce attorney-client privilege, what you re admitting here is we have nothing on russia, nothing significant, nothing we can hang our hat on, but we are going to find a way or make a way to impeach the president of the united states. let s just be honest. that is the end goal here. that is the goal of the washington swamp. it s the goal of the media, is to impeach the president. and the president has to say enough. we have business in this country to attend to. that s quite a tale you weave there, but go on. it s quite a tale and it happens to be the truth. it s why the president needs to take action. let somebody else talk. go ahead, dana. are we done now? we re hardly done. i m one of those true republicans that can t stand this president because he has hijacked the republican party, and he has hijacked democracy. that being said, frankly, don, the trump apologist has sidetracked so much, i kind of forgot your question. can you refresh my memory? i said the president has called the raid of cohen an attack on our country and an attack on all that we stand for. is that appropriate? yes, it s appropriate, and i m going to tell you why. one of the things that differentiates the united states of america from many other countries, including dictatorships, is that in this country nobody, nobody, not the president do you think it s appropriate to call it an attack on our country? no, i think it s appropriate for michael cohen to be investigated and to be raided. because in the united states of america, one of the things that distinguishes us from many other countries is that in this country, nobody, not the president of the united states or his minions or his personal lawyer or whomever, is above the law. they are all subject to the law, and they all need to behave legally. so i do think it is appropriate for him to be raided. look, follow the trail. follow the money trail. i mean you know, i actually marvel at the fact that donald trump has gotten as far as he has gotten with his limited intellectual curiosity, vocabulary of about a four-year-old, and the worst damn lawyer that any of us have ever seen. this guy couldn t even get an mba executed. dana, you ve been demeaning the president in this manner for so long. he went to an ivy league school and he s a self-made billionaire. i wish i were that dumb, i don t know about you. let s get to point about our democracy are you going to answer the question or continue to pivot. it takes time and we only have one segment. because you really talk and talk and talk, and steve, make your point. i m trying to. i m trying to. so at this point there s three of us in this panel. you spoke all you wanted to without any of us interrupting. i now spoke and it s charles turn. he answers to no one which is why he needs the truth. a lot of people try to downplay the whole stormy daniels story. they re saying, oh, this is about an affair. we know it s not about an affair he had years ago. this is possibly breaking lawsuit, campaign finance, breaking election laws, and that s what it appears this may have come down to. wouldn t that be incredibly ironic if this piece of it becomes the thing, becomes the biggest thorn in his side? around that story has always been just an incredible amount of smoke. what did cohen tell his bank when he was getting the loan? he said he got a loan, i guess, a second mortgagor something. what do you tell them? you can t lie to them and say it s for one thing if it s for another. why did the detectors and they reported it, did the president know about the agreement which he says now he did not know about it. did he know about the payment? did the president pay him back? would he ever ask the president to pay him back? there s a lot of smoke and mirrors on this, and the easiest way not to get in trouble is telling the truth. i don t know yet if they have told that truth, but something about their activity around this caught the eye of mueller and his investigators. they referred it to another group of fbi investigators, attorneys of new york. they went to a judge. a judge evaluated what they brought to them, and he said, it looks like this warrants the search warrant. so something there is tripping a lot of triggers. and there are six major things that you have to attain in order to get before obtaining a search warrant, investigators had to obtain the evidence. the warrant had to come from an assistant attorney general or the attorney general. he had to confer with the department of justice before receiving it. privileged communications between cohen and his science. a clean team, including lawyers and agents not working on the case. we must ensure that the. researchers had to develop a review process for the seized material. that s a. it s a lot of hoots, but don, i want to know, what happened to russia? where did russia a go. i know we re krumplged for time, but this is an important conversation. as i said from the very beginning when you started to talk, these are two. . tell trump not to pleat up with porn stars, and he s married, and drop his trousers. okay, guys. i got to go. i gotta go. if you don t want that to come out, don t say it. remind me of the question, don? we ll be right back. & to personalize their treatment, imagine what we can do for the conditions that affect us all. imagine what we can do for you. an angry president trump during a meeting to talk about syria going off on the fbi raids of his attorney michael to hen. two huge stories that could get much, much bigger. i m talking to nicholas kristof, writer for the new york times. what doou you think about this? we have two separate investigations related to the conduct of the president. it s unbelievable. i guess i do worry that the president s reaction clearly he s so viscerally angry. it does raise the risk of the mueller investigation, whether he replaces sessions or he s clearly angry about this. and many trump supporters and his spokespeople are conflating the two investigations into one. this is not robert mueller s investigation. no, there is a referral, but this is a separate investigation, and it s also important to note that even if mueller is ousted that the southern district of new york investigation will continue. so these are you know, this is an incredible moment when we have two separate federal investigations of criminal behavior. and again, he called this an attack on our country, an attack for all that we stand for. but even while all of this is going on, i want to talk about what s happening now. i want to talk about what s going to happen with syria. it may be more likely to happen in syria because of the events today. do you think it s a wag the dog situation? i don t know, but i do i think that it was likely this was going to happen, anyway. i think it s almost 100% certain that it s going to happen now after this. you heard the president say today, talk about the timing, he said u.s. would be withdrawing from syria soon, remember. john mccain is basically he s blaming those words at least for the chemical attack. here s what he said in a statement. he said, president trump last week signalled to the world that the united states would prematurely withdraw from syria. bashar assad and his russian and iranian backers have heard him and emboldened by american inaction, assad has reportedly launched another chemical attack against innocent men, women and children, this time in douma. is he right? was assad emboldened by president trump s words? it s a little harsh and i don t think it s fair to blame president trump for the use of chemical weapons. that s on president assad, that s on iran and that s on russia. but it is true that assad has repeatedly used chemical weapons back since 2012 because the international community, in part represented first by president obama, most recently by president trump, has kotolerate it. a year ago president trump fired 69 cruise missiles at a million dollars each into the ground. that was a one-off event that didn t change the calculations of assad. and from that point of view, mccain is right that trump did not stand up to it, that when he talks about pulling troops out of syria that that, i think, does make assad a little more likely to think, yeah, he can do whatever it takes to win in that area of eastern bouta. this is the end of the t tomahawk missiles you re talking about. there was an attack on 80 people. 48 people died saturday in douma. president trump called putin out by name for backing animal assad. why do you think the president is calling putin out now? i don t call the president reprehensible for not calling him out. i was glad he called him out now. but it sure does look like he is going to fire missiles at syria, but the problem is, does he have any military force is important when it s harnessed to some sort of broader vision, when it s harnessed to a strategy. i don t see what that strategy is in the case of syria. i don t see what that gives us leverage to do. this is a really dangerous moment in syria with the israeli strikes apparently having killed four iranians. we re really concerned whether there will be another israel-lebanon war. i don t have confidence in president trump using his military toolbox in ways that will avoid problems with russia and with iran, and in ways that will actually advance syrian interests and our interests and global interests on the ground there. we ll know what s going to happen soon. the president indicated today as well that we will know. i think it s coming. thank you, nicholas. appreciate it. when we come back, evidence that scott pruitt lied about controversial raises given to friends who controversial pay raises. what can you tell us? what do you know. as you mentioned, last week i reported that scott pruitt had signed off on two really hefty pay raises for two of his staffers back from oklahoma. what was controversial, though, was not so much the raises themselves which, yes, were quite large, but the white house refused to sign off on these. when that happened, pruitt ordered his aides to sir cup ve circumvent the process. and then they interviewed pruitt and he denied any knowledge. what i can report today though is that an e-mail is currently circulating the agency which n which sarah greenwall, one of the aids who received the raises said pruitt was in fact the one to sign off on these. i have two administration official whose have seen the e-mail confirming that to me. what s happening right now, don, is epa officials know there s an investigation into these raise says so they re trying to corral all the relevant materials that may appear to contradict what pruitt said in his fox news interview. this one is troubling them the most, though, because it s not really something they can explain away. let me ask you this, because you re saying there s an e-mail floating around. it s not from pruitt. the epa spokesman said there no evidence in the e-mail that pruitt knew about the pay raises or that he even saw the e-mails. that is correct? what the e-mail says, it s sarah green wawall telling hr t c confirm that her raises have been processed and she says the adm administrator approved these raises. the statement i got in my professional opinion seemed to indicate they were confirming that fact but not that it was correct necessarily. now it s almost like they re throwing the onus on her to explain that she was in fact wrong for saying that. great reporting. we appreciate your time. when we come back, the president is angry about the fbi raids on michael cohen. is he going to do anything about it. why don t i just fire mueller? well, i think it s a disgrace what s going on. we ll see what happens. we ll see what happens. wonder what he means by that. a family of seven technology leaders working behind the scenes to make the impossible. reality. we re helping to give cars the power to read your mind from anywhere. and we re helping up to 40% of the nation s donated blood supply to be redirected to the people that need it most. magic can t make digital transformation happen. but we can. do ndo not misjudgenity quiet tranquility. with the power of 335 turbo-charged horses lincoln mkx, more horsepower than the lexus rx350 and a quiet interior from which to admire them. the lincoln spring sales event is here. for a limited time get zero percent apr on the lincoln mkx. hurry in today to your lincoln dealer. i knew at that exact moment . i m beating this. my main focus was to find a team of doctors. it s not just picking a surgeon, it s picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. visit cancercenter.com/breast introducing walit s a great days. for a great deal! tender, center-cut sirloin or chicken on the barbie, fries, a draft beer or a coke, all for just $9.99. only for a limited time. so don t walk, run to outback. well, lik-oh!st of you, i j-very nice.a house. now i m turning into my dad. i text in full sentences. i refer to every child as chief. this hat was free. what am i supposed to do, not wear it? 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hard to believe it wasn t much more look at me than me too. the washington post is also reporting former today show anchor ann curry warned at least two people in management about sexual misconduct concerns involving her co-host matt lauer in 2012. when lauer was fired in november over sexual misconduct allegations, nbc said there had been no prior complaints. tonight, matt lauer says in a new statement addressing various allegations against him, i fully acknowledge that i acted inappropriately. however, any allegations or reports of coercive, aggressive or abusive actions on my part, at any time, are absolutely false. david, brokaw was supposed to give a commencement address today at sacred heart university, but he has cancelled. saying he doesn t want to be a distraction. tonight, the nbc news chairman says in a message to employees that the network is committed to providing a workplace environment where everyone should feel safe and protected. there can be no exception. david? eva, thank you. next to the remarkable images, jim jong-un stepping over the border into south korea. here s the moment. a short time later, both leaders stepping back into north korea. it was really something to witness, as the world was watching. both declaring the war is over. and what president trump said today with his face to face meeting coming next. terry moran, in south korea. reporter: high drama in the dmz. kim jong-un, emerging from north korea. his phalanx of bodyguards slips away and he strides alone to the border. a warm handshake with south korean president moon jae-in. and then, with that step, kim makes history. the first north korean leader to set foot on south korean territory. unscripted, the two leaders then cross back into the north as if to show that fearsome border is just a line on the ground. this summit marked by pageantry. the men, introducing their wives. kim jong-un s wife all smiles. in the end, the two leaders promising to sign a peace treaty this year, formally ending the korean war and pledging the denuclearization of the peninsula. sealing the deal with a bear hug. we are one nation, kim declared. but beyond this summit, the family of american otto warmbier reminding the world of the brutal nature of kim s regime. filing a lawsuit this week accusing north korea of the torture and murder of their son in a north korean prison. and in washington, president trump, whose tough talk about fire and fury changed the dynamic here, now optimistically looking forward to his own meeting with kim. i ll be watching people that failed so badly over the last 25 years explaining to me how to make a deal with north korea. i get a big, big kick out of that. but we are doing very well. i think that something very dramatic could happen. terry, from just south of the dmz tonight. the president says they ve narrowed down the possible locations for the summit? reporter: that s right, there are two or three possible locations. but it s been tough. both sides want it on neutral ground. it needs to be close because kim jong-un s airplane only has a range of a couple of thousand miles. so, singapore has risen to the top of the list, but mongolia is making a bid, too. so we ll see. terry, thank you. and the president also celebrating the findings from the republicans on the house intelligence committee. but democrats on the committee point out several key people were not interviewed. here s cecilia vega tonight. reporter: president trump today feeling vindicated. we were honored. it was a great report. reporter: republicans on the house intelligence committee concluding in 243 heavily redacted pages there is, quote, no evidence that the trump campaign colluded, coordinated, or conspired with the russian government. no collusion, which i knew anyway. no coordination, no nothing. reporter: special counsel robert mueller s probe, still ongoing. but this one on capitol hill, consumed by political warfare from the start. democrats on the committee calling today s republican report fundamentally flawed. it does criticize the president s aides for poor judgment in that now infamous trump tower campaign meeting. don jr., jared kushner, paul manafort and a russian lawyer whom they were told had dirt on hillary clinton. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. reporter: and it blasts the campaign s praise of wikileaks. this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. reporter: which published democrats e-mails stolen by russian hackers. republicans also criticized intelligence agencies for concluding the kremlin wanted president trump to win the election. democrats charge those republicans prematurely ended the investigation, ignored key evidence, and failed to interview key witnesses like michael flynn and george papadopoulos. they call it a systematic effort to muddy the waters and to deflect attention away from the president. let s get to cecilia vega, live at the white house. the report also mentions the trump tower meeting with the russian lawyer. she had long insisted she s not a kremlin operative, but we re finding her ties to the putin regime are deeper? reporter: yeah, we ve obtained e-mails that show she has ties to the kremlin that go back for years. look at what she told nbc today. quote, i m a lawyer and an informant. since 2013, i have been actively communicating with the office of the russian prosecutor general. david, that s a top kremlin official. an eye-opening quote. cecilia, thank you. and next to the warning from authorities after a sheriff s deputy was shot and killed. now they believe he may have been specifically targeted. the suspect seen moments after the attack on surveillance. officers going door to door now. and what we re learning tonight. here s linzie janis. reporter: tonight, with the manhunt for suspected cop killer john williams intensifying, news of a possible motive. williams on the run since wednesday, suspected of killing corporal eugene cole and stealing his cruiser. williams then caught minutes later on surveillance video allegedly robbing this convenience store. sources now say corporal cole may have been targeted after he was involved in the arrest of williams girlfriend last weekend on drug charges. the fbi releasing these images showing the 29-year-old s extensive body tattoos. if john williams is listening to me, i would like to address him directly. we will do anything to resolve this situation peacefully. reporter: some residents in this rural community are arming themselves in case they come in contact with the dangerous fugitive. he s probably got more to worry about from us than we have from him. reporter: authorities are restricting hunting in the area as they search. the funeral for corporal cole is monday. david? linzie, thank you. and the medevac chopper going down in the woods. killing three crew members on board. all-terrain vehicles used the find the wreckage. here s david kerley, on the often risky emergency missions. reporter: tonight, investigators are in this wooded area of north wisconsin, examining the wreckage that left a medevac crew of three dead. it was like a lot of rotors hitting trees. you know, that chopping sound and then it was quiet. reporter: having just dropped off a patient, the chopper went down just before 11:00 at night. in the past decade, 83 medevac helicopters have been involved in accidents, killing a total of 100 people. medevac flights are often at night, sometimes in bad weather, which is why the ntsb wants companies to do a better job of assessing risk. the irony is entirely, the very people that go out to save lives are unfortunately crashing and claiming lives. reporter: in wisconsin, the company has temporarily grounded its other helicopter while the investigation continues. david? david, thank you. next tonight to the growing teacher walkouts. images from arizona and colorado this evening. in denver, teachers walking out for higher pay and more funding in schools. and in arizona tonight, teachers plan to stay on the picket line, they say, indefinitely. and the controversy growing on capitol hill after paul ryan forced the chaplain to step down without giving a reason. patrick conroy will step down. some democrats believe it s because of a prayer he gave during last fall s tax debate, urging that everyone gets a fair shot. a spokesman for speaker ryan says that s not the reason why. there s still much more ahead on world news tonight. the controversial police takedown. the former nfl athlete speaking out after a violent parking lot confrontation. and what police are now saying. the consumer warning tonight. the type of lettuce they want everyone to throw out. and the avengers are right here tonight. you ll hear from them, coming up. and the avengers are right here tonight. you ll hear from them, coming up. around the clock. and with a $0 copay if you are new to toujeo, that s something to groove about. let s groove tonight. share the spice of life. from the makers of lantus, baby slice it right. toujeo provides blood sugar- lowering activity all day, all night, and beyond, proven blood sugar control all day and all night, and can significantly lower your a1c. toujeo is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don t use toujeo to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you re allergic to insulin. get medical help right away if you have a serious allergic reaction such as body rash, or trouble breathing. don t reuse needles, or share insulin pens. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be life-threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily. injection site reactions may occur. don t change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor about all your medicines and medical conditions. check insulin label each time you inject. taking tzds with insulins like toujeo may cause heart failure that can lead to death. find your rhythm and keep on grooving. let s groove tonight. ask your doctor about toujeo. share the spice of life. each day justin at work. walk. and after work. he does it all with dr. scholl s. only dr. scholl s has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort. to keep him feeling more energized. dr. scholl s. born to move. next tonight here, a violent police takedown caught on camera in georgia. the man, a former nfl athlete, unarmed at the time, is speaking out. here s steve osunsami. i m not even doing anything, man. reporter: this is one of the eyewitness cell phone videos that prosecutors south of atlanta tonight are studying frame by frame. 30-year-old desmond marrow is already in handcuffs when you see henry county police wrestle him to the ground, and then this happens. i can t breathe. i can t breathe. i can t breathe. reporter: the former college football star and nfl athlete lost a tooth and had to be hospitalized. police were called after a roadside dispute with another driver who he says was using racial slurs. there s an altercation in the parking lot. it s about to get physical. reporter: but look again, police say they see it differently. in their report saying that marrow shouted several times that he was not able to breathe, but as he was shouting, he was clearly breathing. marrow says he wasn t acting. at one point i felt dead or going to die. those are the only things i remember. reporter: prosecutors are also looking at this video, from when police arrived. police were told he had a gun, and this may have been why. i would have shot him in the head for some [ bleep ] like that, where i come from. reporter: prosecutors tonight say they know this video is disturbing, but also say marrow is still charged with aggressive driving. steve, thank you. when we come back, the lettuce they want you to throw out. nearly 100 sickened in more than 20 states. and the body cam footage showing an officer firing through his windshield at the suspect. n a moment.in a moment. firing throug his windshield at the suspect. we ll be right back. right back. that s why my owner gives me k9 advantix ii. it kills fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes. mosquitoes too? 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be sure to tune in this sunday for the state of the union. it all starts at 9:00 a.m. it all starts at 9:00 a.m. eastern. captions by vitac www.vitac.com breaking news. not backing down. forced out over domestic abuse allegations. kelly said he has nothing to even consider resigning over, even over a growing controversy over white house security clearances. strayed wars. a day after sending world markets into a tail spin, president trump said trade wars are good. will merge products be targeted for retaliation? angering his allies. the president s position on trade, guns, and even his own attorney general are angering his allies. does he risk losing key advisers? and powerful supporters in zmong and russian sedructress. she can provide the missing pieces. you re in the situation room. breaking news, president trump has arrived at his florida retreat. he can t he is came the chaos he s been creating in washington. chief of staff john kelly is caught up in the controversy but says won t be joining the growing number of advisers leaving the white house, even as he acknowledges deficiency there s in the handling of security clearances and classified materials. i ll speak with michael heyden, the formerer director of the cia and nsa. and our specialists are all standing by. first straight to our chief white house correspondent, jim acosta. the president is in florida, in palm beach. he seemingly can t get away from the problems at the white house. that s right. trade wars, staff wars, they go on and on. chief of staff john kelly left staffers puzzled when he tried to relitigate the troubles at the white house in the rob porter scandal. one official said it was odd for kelly to res direct controversy and there s more chaos on the policy side as president trump is doubling down, inviting a trade war that even some administration officials are acknowledging it will cost americans more money to guy products they need. when president trump stepped away from the white house, he left behind an administration that is by many accounts, in utter turmoil. his chief of staff reignited the discussion over rob porter who was ousted last month over charges of domestic abuse. kelly. i have nothing to even consider resigning over. he admitted to reporters that glowing statements from the white house praising port he, as the staff secretary were stepping down, were a mistake. kelly tried clean up the time line of the staff saga insisting he only learned of red flags february 6 willth. that they were aware of it last november. he attempted to explain it saying the first accusation had to do with a messy divorce but no mention of physical abuse. and he said that is insulting to anyone suffering in an abusive situation now. emotional and psychological us into abuse. not to mention someone out of a shower is physical. the president is face go growing criticism over the sudden announcement of the tariffs on steel. mr. trump s response, trade wars are good and easy to win. we win big. it s easy. the wall street journal is not buying it saying, donald trump made the biggest policy blunder of his presidency. when asked about predictions that consumer costs will go up, he brought out a can of soup. let s put in it perspective. i just bought can of campbell s soup. it was $1.99 for the can. there s about 3 cents worth of tin plate steel in this can. so if it goes up 25%, that s a tiny fraction of 1 penny. but the president s view on tariffs have been known for decades, like his colorful warning to china. listen, you [ bleep ]. democrats say this is exactly the kind of chaotic presidency both parties warned about. i ve served under six administrations. i ve never seen such chaos. who knows what he ll do on trade tomorrow morning. they say that the national security adviser could leave the white house in the near future. general mcmaster is not going anywhere. if this is chaos, i think the american people are glad for it. if they want to call it chaos, fine. we call it success. not the moengs the ever changing position gun control. the president met with the nra and tweeted, good, great meeting in the oval office twonlt the nra. raising questions that whether the president still supports confiscating guns without due process. as you said earlier in the week of the will. he is looking for ways we can improve the mental health system so we can take guns away from staff like jared kushner. republicans want some answers too. trey gowdy has issued a very detailed question. now gowdy and the top democrat elijah cummings want to know exactly when they became aware of disqualifying information involving rob porter with a detailed time line of the background investigation. despite the wednesday deadline for this information, i m told the white house has not yet provided this information to the committee. the office did say they home they get information soon. but this week sanders made no commitments. and there s significant scrutiny on the senate side. chuck grassly has joined the second category. no sense of guilt or character flaws in the part of the young man. but there could be circumstances. i ve been part of this. sometimes we denial it to people had are good but there are vulnerability there s. at least at the theoretical level that we didn t want to embrace. so yes, that could be part of it. so the interim top secret security clearances. that has been downgraded from top secret to secret. it is on the agenda with these restricted security clearances. in my view, if secret means secret, and we re not allowing some wink, wink, nudge, nudge. the standards were not in place when this new administration came into being. they didn t have the standards and as a result, you have dozens and dozens of officials who couldn t get top secret clearances. this was an incoming feel didn t have a great deal of regard for norms. there are norms, through lessons lermd, if you don t do it that way you re really increasing the odds things will happen. in case of mr. kushner. we jumped over norms with regard to nepotism torsion divestment of interest. we jumped over norms with regard to his security clearance and look where we are now. a lot of reports including our own reporting that mcmaster could be out at the end of the month. we all know it has happened to michael flynn. this turnover, how does it impact national security? it can t be good. what we re seeing is we re seeing this story appear on about a 30-day sine wave. and i think that s a reflection. i think it might be a problem. the problem is process. unless your national security adviser is brent scowcroft, it is your process guy. he is the one who imposes order and discipline and sequence. and he dislikes all of those virtues. so i think we see this recurring every three to four weeks and it will recur even if hr leaves. this week putin delivered a major speech and showed a lot of video for what he describe as invincible nuclear weapons in florida. the president stays silent when it comes to putin. why? i don t know why. i don t know why. i ll suggest one reason. i think no matter what the circumstances are, there has become a thing for him. you and i and others have talked about this going back to the campaign. this is a stubborn mannest should have been criticizing vladimir. on the actual substance, putin was taunting him. the correct response for an american president to someone like putin is to be quiet. that was the right answer. i wish that he had answer for some of the other taunting that we ve seen. general, thank you for coming in. up next, more on vladimir putin s taunting of the united states military. and maybe trying to frighten americans with his new boasts of invincible new nuclear missiles. and described as the missing puzzle pieces in exchange for helping get out of a prison in thailand. vo: gopi has built her business with her own two hands. each unique piece comes to life in the same way. a messy, sloppy, splattery 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house staff secretary. we focus the allegations of domestic abuse and rightly so. but there s another giant story there. which is this is the person who is literally, here you go, mr. president. he was handling top secret classified information on an interim security clearance. and they knew there were issues. not because of the issues. you have it with jared kushner. if you ask who he is closest t., the former director of the national security agency, he said, jared kushner dealing with these sensitive issues in the middle east or china or mexico, he has no business if he can t get top secret security clearance. just secret isn t going to do it. i cannot remember a single national security meeting at that level. we have jared kushner handling highly classified portfolios, like israel. the israelis are coming into town this weekend. when he is going in with information at a secret level, meaning he dth doesn t have the whole picture or he is going on abuse the system. and he has bias. there are major conflicts of interest. he has a bias and not a bias toward national security. it looks like a business of impropriety. we don t know that. the whole notion of the security clearances, so significant right now. especially when the president, as we know, he has relied on his family members, his close friends sore so much assistance. he has. and because of these issues, you see president. this is someone we know, from what we ve seen in the white house, he values loyalty to a fault. that s yes surrounded himself with family members, people like hope hicks who came to the white house with him and is now leaving. that s why you see there president, he is more and more alone now than he has ever been. and those who he relies on, they could be out too, because of the security clearance. it is incremental. not exponential. at the same time, the number of people that he can trust, even if he can rely jared kushner and ivanka, they can t focus just what president trump feels is 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when you think about the russians want to undermine our institutions, all of these are golden tickets for putin. why would mcmaster want to stay? national security policy is not being made. he and his team are working. it is being made from trump s bedroom when he goes on a twitter storm. so the incentive, working long hours, not getting paid a lot. big pressure from big business, from the editorial pages from the wall street journal for his decision to announce tariffs on steel and aluminum imports. would you without going through a full case is process. if you listen to the president, he says throws a good thing. that doesn t match what a lot of economists say. they re worried if president trump keeps going along this path and it braunchs a broader trade war, that would undermine what s happening. if you want to talk about whether it is a good thing, look at smoot hallie. i m not sure we should make trade policy on twitter but the idea that you say, trade wars are good and can be easily won. if we have tariffs, don t think the countries impacted will say, well, that s fair. we won t do anything. that s the donald trump calculation. that s not the calculation any other country makes. they re going on retaliate. perhaps they are. i have to say, i m pretty skeptical of all this complaining from these republican senators and congressmen. they re very good about, oh, we re very concerned. how many have voted against donald trump? 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well i think we re waiting to see whether she will emerge into the public again. what that will happen. she s expected to be deported from thailand at some point over the next few days or weeks, depending on the authorities. if she is deported she ll come back to russia. and praerhaps we might be able get clarity of what she has. all right. thank you very much. in moscow for us. coming up, the white house chief of staff john kelly daught up in controversy but said he won t be joining the growing number leaving the white house even as he admits deficiencies on the handling security clearances and classified materials. what would our founding fathers