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Of the apocalypse. if that happens, i will definitely fall off my chair, but i won't be totally surprised. >> that's an oxymoron, but okay. >> i guess so. >> no surprises. >> but i do -- i'm still struck by something here that you started with jeffrey. you know, we've always said that he could -- the president may not be being investigated, but that could always change and i thought comey made that point according to what he's going to say in his testimony. but it is so revealing about what the president thinks about this. are you investigating me? okay, i'm done with it. doesn't matter this u...

Jeffrey you heard what donald trump now told me earlier this month, now engaging with the idea a little more more publicly what do you think the strategy is behind that? >> i think it is out of the art of the war, the sheathed sword. i think what he is basically saying is be fair to me or you know i'll think about this. and you know to be perfectly candid i keep listening every day to these kinds of things. i don't understand if all of these people are opposed to donald trump, why they give him the things that give him oxygen and fuel as they go along. certainly before i came over i heard sena...

>> i'm not sure his view of what a reasonable person would say is accurate and also that will be going through the 4th circuit court of appears so at this point i have to believe they'll say we're not going to redo the executive order again and sooner rather than later this has got to wind up before the supreme court because now you have the cases all over the country, this is why we have the supreme court to settle big questions where many lower courts are look at the issue. >> jeffrey you pipe in whenever you want and during the rest of the discussion if the intersection of politics and law ...