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that he testified on friday in front of a d.c. grand jury. the new york times in the wall street journal reporting that -- general counsel has also testified. and what we are hearing, from the january 6th, now maybe an even bigger deal. even more damning. and what they showed us last week. and their final hearing until september. you remember the shortest then president of the united states, donald trump, the day after supporters attacked the capitol. hunted lawmakers in the halls. beat police within an inch of their lives. the day after all of that. they showed us how he absolutely ...

>> oh yeah. >> also, a little bit of fairness and decency. >> oh my gosh. >> come on now. come on! >> thank you jen's. >> just hearing america the beautiful in the flag where waving. behind >> me thank you. the white house trying to downplay appears over such, and both several columnist are expecting, including the -- larry summers, there he is! he is going to join me. let's see if he can have illustrate. i will see you after the break, larry.