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we don't need it now. it is great to have the farms. >> thank you. any further public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. i don't see any commissioners requesting to speak out. i would like to -- ok. >> i do think the fence -- i know of several of these urban gardens in the city. and i just think it would be a burden with that fencing requirement. i feel lower permitting fees -- we are trying to encourage these small business owners to get out there and sell their produce. i like what is happening here. it made my neighborhood a lot nicer, so. >> commissioner. >> yes. i w...

a longer period of time, say 10 years or some number we might say then it is required. we don't need it now. it is great to have the farms. >> thank you. any further public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. i don't see any commissioners requesting to speak out. i would like to -- ok. >> i do think the fence -- i know of several of these urban gardens in the city. and i just think it would be a burden with that fencing requirement. i feel lower permitting fees -- we are trying to encourage these small business owners to get out there and sell their produce. i like what i...

seeing none, public comment is closed. i don't see any commissioners requesting to speak out. i would like to -- ok. >> i do think the fence -- i know of several of these urban gardens in the city. and i just think it would be a burden with that fencing requirement. i feel lower permitting fees -- we are trying to encourage these small business owners to get out there and sell their produce. i like what is happening here. it made my neighborhood a lot nicer, so. >> commissioner. >> yes. i would like to know why is there a need for fencing and why is it a need for wooden fencing or a ...

seeing none, public comment is closed. i don't see any commissioners requesting to speak out. i would like to -- ok. >> i do think the fence -- i know of several of these urban gardens in the city. and i just think it would be a burden with that fencing requirement. i feel lower permitting fees -- we are trying to encourage these small business owners to get out there and sell their produce. i like what is happening here. it made my neighborhood a lot nicer, so. >> commissioner. >> yes. i would like to know why is there a need for fencing and why is it a need for wooden fencing or a ...

process of the creation and the existence so far dramatically improved the quality of life in the neighborhood. i say it as someone who does not volunteer on site. i haven't had a chance to buy anything and who doesn't have kids. definitely i have noticed it connected my part of hayes value which is an admittedly yuppie part. to the number of kids coming over from western addition as school groups to volunteer. i feel it stitches hayes valley into the broader communities around it. for me to see these people there, i think it makes my life better. i will say specifically about the fe...