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>> love it. >> you know, what mike barnicle said about "american pie," jonathan lemire, filled with question marks and wonderment, the same applies to duran and the red sox. >> oh, right back. >> will he make the cut-off throw? >> no. >> the guy is batting over .400. that's wonderment right there. >> mike tried desperately to change the subject, and you wouldn't let him back to the red sox, well done, joe. surrounded in enigma, you don't know what is going to happen he is hitting right now, joe again, it is one step forward, one step back. a win, a loss, .500. staying steady stayi ing steady t...

Harris, for example, got in trouble with insurance and health care and getting rid of private insurance. biden is saying nothing at this point in time. he is talking macro. the question is, how much longer can he get away with that? a lot of congressional democrats got away with that in the last election. it will be interesting if biden can stall for that period of time. >> david, i keep pinning you back into wisconsin. i think about the madison activists. >> yes. >> i think about them, because that to me, can joe biden win them over? if you win over the madison activists on the, my number one...

States is siding with a murderous dictator over the former vice president of the united states. >> chuck, the president is not siding with that, but i think they agree in their assessment of former vice president joe again, biden. again, the president's focus in this process is the relationship he has in making sure we continue on the path towards that's denuclearization. that's what he wants to see and that's what the people in this region want to see and are hopeful that the president is right and that that relationship will be what moves us down that >> path. >> the president of the united ...

Estate moguls. why is that? is that something that you support, and will you support that if it's in the final bill? >> i think, joe, that actually will end up being one of those things that comes out whether it's in the markup going through the house or over in the senate. i can tell you i was in the oval office with the president when this very subject came up. and he was very emphatic that like he was consistent on the campaign trail about the hedge fund managers and the carried interest provisions that he felt like it needed to be done away with. obviously you've got real estate developers...

Have had every democrat voting for that budget. and so, listen, we're here in truly a defining moment for our nation. we're going to actually give more money of the american taxpayer's dollars back to them. and that's -- if the democrats had fought that back when they were making the arguments, maybe they would have had more of a bipartisan appeal there as well. >> congressman, joe again. i wanted to ask you sort of my ongoing obsession, and it has been more 25 years as we talk about the deficit and the debt. entitlement reform. we're talking about tax cuts. i don't think i would be quite so c...