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mr. hibbard. thank you, mr. chairman. i would say certainly from our perspective in the commonwealth, we completely agree with the goal of the legislation. we absolutely have to address the carvin issue and we have to address it now. what i would urge you to consider from the standpoint of transmission is to try to retain the competitive market structure that delivers benefits to the ratepayers and the designs you implement going forward. the carvin cap that provides a value of cost and additional marginal cost associated with allowance purchase for fossil generating resources and renewable portfolio floor that provides a different additional revenue to renewable resources should provide financial incentives needed to get the renewables and associated transmission belt and we want to maintain the distinction between who is responsible paying for the transmission if it is a generating facility and who is responsible if it s needed for reliability. commissioner azar ....