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To sort of get the voter, to get your base wound up again. because remember, this is a base election. whichever person, whichever candidate can get his base out to the polls, that's going to be the margin of victory. and with regard to the swing state polls, let's keep something in mind, before that debate last wednesday, the swing state polls were already shrinking. so, i mean, this isn't big news that ohio and michigan and florida and these other states are beginning to shrink. this election has always been a close election. >> all right, so one thing -- >> john? >> real quick because i want...

Attention, let me see what i think about this guy. the question is, now that they're taking that second look, when they go to his website and say, wait a second, what he said on the stage about people with pre-existing conditions isn't true based on what it says on his campaign website, what are they going to really think and believe and what will the next debate performance bring? >> all right, that's for people who are really going to investigate and do the time and research that you suggest, which a lot of people may not do. but john, you heard chuck todd saying this bounce is real, but wha...

Somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. >> and also, in a new ad that's all the talk on the trail. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, glutens of greed and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. big bird. big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> did you see the new ad put out by the president, the re-elect obama campaign? big bird. big bird. what is that all about? >> we get straight to it now with our tuesday political power panel. msnbc contributor jonathan c...