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The vote was 65-27. not surprisingly, all no votes came from republicans. seven senators were absent. both parties insisted there was little chance of an actual shutdown despite several republican senators holding up proceedings to push their own priorities. lawmakers are working to finalize a deal on long-term spending to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year, which is september. joining us now co-founder of punch bowl news, one of our favorites around here john breznihan. good to see you. do we think that the foreign policy situation impacted at all what the senate was dec...

That is, as much as it was an accomplishment for president biden to secure passage of the infrastructure bill, the harder part is now, keeping things in the senate where things are tied 50/50, and in the house where democrats have ago small margin, in line. they can't afford to lose any votes. they have weeks of tough work ahead. there's also looming questions about the debt ceiling. president biden said the u.s. will not default on its obligations. >> worried about the debt ceiling, mr. president? >> nope. we're not going to let us default. 8 trillion of that is on the republican watch. >> ...

Trump will rail against it, but infrastructure is important. it's roads, bridges, highways, members of congress like voting for that stuff and don't like voting against it, especially headed into an election year. >> it seems like republicans in the senate anyway are ignoring what donald trump has to say about this. i want to go back to what you just said a moment ago about the balancing act democrats are going to have, putting together the reconciliation bill where you have extremes here from the moderates to the progressives, different visions of what they want here. we have progressives who...

Punch bowl news john breznihan. we have hurdles to face in the house, i take it, what are they? >> speaker pelosi has said that she will not move this bipartisan infrastructure bill until the senate also passes a reconciliation bill. that means the democrats are going to move, massive, $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. this is a big chunk of president joe biden's americans jobs plan and american families plan. that's going to take a couple months to put together. so nancy pelosi's plan is to hold the infrastructure bill and wait until the reconciliation bill. she needs that to balance her mod...

She can make some horse trading there. but she needs to hold both of these together. the big thing you were talking about is, the moderates are getting scared of 2022, they want this infrastructure bill, they need some color and think biden can give it to them. >> all right, john, thank you very much for being on this morning. still ahead on "morning joe," senate majority whip, dick durbin calls it frightening. we're learning new details about former president trump's final days in office and his personal and direct involvement with the justice department after the 2020 election. plus what d...