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A major concern. i liked his answer. i thought it was a good, honest, thoughtful answer. but the strategist in me just needs to see those numbers move. if we were looking at the other side, if we had a john casic or jeb bush, all we would talk about was how they couldn't excite the base. >> joe biden is doing very well with african-american voters i think because of his connection to barack obama. none of the other candidates are doing particularly well, even the candidates of color are not doing very well in that community. so, you know, i think this is an open question. >> do you think if, y...

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Another guest that night i don't know if you remember, had a message for you. >> john casic, you had a good record in congress and as a popular governor. two terms no ohio. a moderate republican conservative. last people to stand up against trump in 2016. you tell us i can't run for president. what's wrong with you? don't be a woos. leave it to who the former massachusetts governor to take him on? get in there, john. lightning can strike. you'd make a good president. >> i think that's a compliment to you. >> i like the end. he said you would be a good president. i agree with him. by the way, a...

In 1992. listen, ross perot was not perfect. he was also interesting because he dabbled in conspiracy theories. remember the thing about prisoners of war, and he hiding information about prisoners of war. and dropped out of the election and said republicans operatives tried to infiltrate his daughter's -- it was odd. he dropped outd and came back in. it was interesting. we have gone through this before. at a different level. tonight, you want to tune into the show. i have chris ruddy. friend of the president. john casic who ran for president in 2016 and can offer more on this. and i have kcory...