in 1992. listen, ross perot was not perfect. he was also interesting because he dabbled in conspiracy theories. remember the thing about prisoners of war, and he hiding information about prisoners of war. and dropped out of the election and said republicans operatives tried to infiltrate his daughter's -- it was odd. he dropped outd and came back in. it was interesting. we have gone through this before. at a different level. tonight, you want to tune into the show. i have chris ruddy. friend of the president. john casic who ran for president in 2016 and can offer more on this. and i have kcory booker. action packed program. >> that is stacked. >> life is like a cobweb.