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it said colonial and had pottery sticking out. and under that is indian, and there were stone tools. i said, well, what is this black layer? i said, that looks pretty interesting. and -- we were on at that time a piece of -- it's really not part of the national park. you're on private property. this is owned by preservation virginia, which is then known as the association for the preservation of virginia. and he said, well, we've never had a chance to really look here. he just gave me that look like hey, maybe something is here. and i said what's that. so put that in the back of my m...

>> i know what you want. >> my idea, i take a lot of heat for this. we haven't found a complete cannon yet, okay, that's up there. >> we found the muzzle of one. but that's not good enough for him. >> not good enough. >> it blew up when it was fired. >> bly, is there an artifact that you'd like to find? >> go ahead, you go. >> oh, goodness gracious. you know, we have almost found everything you can imagine from straight pins to guns. i love them all, so that's a hard question for me. >> here's williamsburg, virginia. jeff, go ahead with your comment or question. >> caller: hi, dr. ke...

on american history tv. get our schedules and see past programs on our web site. you can join in the conversation on social media sites. >> you're watching american history tv. joining us live from the historic jamestown settlement, jim kelso and senior curator bly strom. thank you to both of us for joining us on this beautiful saturday afternoon. we'd like to invite our viewers to join us. you can call or you can participate by twitter. i understand, bly, you have something with you that you actually discovered on the project today. can you show it to us and tell us what it is? >> y...

and events. visit college class rooms around the country. go behind the scenes at museums and historic sites on american artifacts and the presidencies, look at the policies and legacies of past president. view our schedule at cspan.org. as the presidential campaign enters its final month and the political parties prepare for their conventions, american history tv will air c-span's original series, the contenders, featuring 14 key political figures who ran for president and lost but impacted political history. we'll air the series every weekend from june 3rd to september 2nd. all her...

environmental history and mark's book is really a fulfillment of this vision, is that we understand the world better, we understand the past better, if we don't treat human beings in isolation from the rest of creation, from the rest of nature. we are in nature, our lives are dependent upon natural systems. and our relationship with other organisms. and many, many historical phenomena aren't fully explicable if you see us isolated from those relationships. >> is it your viewpoint that history in the past has been taught as a series of personalities and more of events rather than, say...