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0 macdonald, john tandy and rick unger. tame to get rid of the navigators? >> of course. this is something the insurance companies do every day and they should have their employees do it. the bigger picture in defense is they are a symptom of the much-bigger problem which is the obama administration's obnoxious conceit it can create healthcare market out of thin air. the better answer is to repeal it. >> rick, john is fur getting rid of them. but he is defending them. >> i heard that. >> i heard that. >> john is right about one thing you said, the insurance brokers have people like this, who h...

Agree and he would have stopped because that's why he was called account silent -- called "silent cal." the makeup of the presidency and the congress and in the senate today is similar to what it was after the $94 election. as i recall, the late '90s did well for the stock market. so john is right about gridlock. >> by the way, john, coolidge vetoed 50 bills while president. unlikely that the president will be doing that. do you think it's what is needed? one party or the other saying no to anything that comes their way? >> without question. economic growth is easy. it's the nature to grow. if...

Nuclear bomb. i'm eric shawn. i'll see you back at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. back to "forbes on fox." you're watching fox news. new record low. not just temperature outside your house but also the number of bills approved inside this house. congress is on race to pa the least productive year on record. john says that is great news. explain the flip side, john. >> stock markets love gridlock. they don't love when the replaceses or democrats are passing law when -- republicans or democrats are passing laws. the stock are at all-time high not the corruption of money quantitative easing but a year...

Country. >> it's completely irrelevant. anything congress has or hasn't done did not affect the market. the market is up because people don't have anywhere else to go. if congress would have gotten busy and go with the infrastructure and jobs programs you would see real impact. >> rick blames the slow economy on ok instruction. i. what do you say? >> i disagree. the best thing to help americans is a robust economy and the strong jobs. but the government is getting in the way. we can't ignore that we have a $17 trillion debt. as john said so many times the government doesn't have the own pot of...

0 healthy ones that are going to pay more in the system than they take out. they are the sick ones that are going to take more than they will put in. then you have this. look at the figure. 800,000 of the people signing up are going directly to medicaid or the chip program, the childrens health insurance program that comes right out of the taxpayer bill. the costs are going up. >> yeah. insurance terms it's actuarial time bomb. the obama administration made a key mistake. key mill lennials supported him overwhelmingly in the two elections he assumed he could pass on the higher cost to young he...