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End of the war in iraq. they have a lot to offer. >> i'm glad you said that. this guy, even before becoming vice president, former head of the senate relations committee, joe biden a smart man so said things time to time that are dumb. go ahead. >> he says things off the cuff, but that's what people can relate to. he is not a poll tested guy. is he someone who can go out and work. he's a retail politician, like no one's business. he can go out there -- i was traveling with him this week, hes that that affect on people, he's this real guy people can relate to, and he's something, he offers some...

About. >> this is a beltway issue? and by that, i mean, do average folks, john q. six pack in middle america, does he understand fast and furious, and does he really care about it in an election year? >> that is a great question. i think up until now, it's been completely a beltway issue. people don't have time for washington scandals, they think basically washington politicians are all the same when it comes to not being very perfect. i think, though, that since the president invoked executive privilege, we've seen this get wider media coverage, beyond the beltway press. are you seeing it on ...

Over the starlet as they walk into court. stand by for us, you've done a great job. we're going to bring you back in a second. we have a couple of legal experts to walk us through what we're going to see there. jon: your boy, my heart is apatter. in hollywood, investigative reporter pat lalama joins us, and prosecutor john q. kel kwrefplt nobody expects that she's going to do the full 90 days. some are saying that, in fact, she's actually getting a rougher time because she's a celebrity? can that be possible? >> well, no. i think she's getting exactly what anybody else would get. they expect h...

Sit down and talk about something. martha: i bet they'll be pleased in the end. this is my take, is that he was a -- it was a tumultuous time for the two of them, imagine going through what this couple went through, into the limelight and under the microscope, she's trying to say, magnifying glass they were under during that whole thing, which would be tough enough to any young couple to deal with and then he went off saying nasty things about the family, and you basically couldn't turn your tv on without seeing an interview some place, but you know now, he's young and there's room for redempt...

Of all, he hadn't gotten a lot of attention. one reason is because he didn't write his own book. he's a modest, humble man. he's not a chest thumper. and therefore a lot of people haven't analyzed his presidency. but they're going to start and i wanted to be a part of the initial wave. >> you're in a special club. john quincy adams never wrote about his dad. >> q and w. >> q and w. there you go. and that was part of your motivation. >> it was. david mccullough's daughter told me that her dad had always wished he had read a book by john q. about his father. i said sounds like a good idea. >> on...