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>> and i still take your point that it hasn't been anything close to what it would normally be whether it were barack obama or clinton or donald trump. but let me ask you what the political case is that democrats can take to the country knowing full well that isn't always a top of mind issue for voters. >> if mccain was still alive and was president, lindsay dram and them would be on the ground waving the flag. so the one tweet i'm not really sold october but politically i agree. this is a beltway issue. this is an issue among el yeates. i think the place where it can become a little bit of a ...

And i still take your point, it hasn't been anything close to what it would normally be, whether barack obama were president or bill clinton or donald trump. but let me ask you what the political case is, the democrats can take to the country knowing full well that that isn't always a top-of-mind issue for voters? >> i will just say really quick, if mccain was still alive and was president, lindsey graham and john mccain would be on the ground in hong kong waving the flags. the one tweet on that, fair correction. >> i'm with you. >> politically, i agree. this is a beltway issue. this is an iss...

She reach out to inspectdependents. i know people think the e-mail doesn't matter and it's a beltway issue, but this type of narrative that you're secretive, deleting e-mails, we've seen it take down her poll numbers in trustworthiness. >> can i stop you for a second? i'm having flashbacks. you do sound like dan burton in 1996. [ laughter ] . that's not a knock. >> i don't know if he was born then. >> that was the year of my bar mitzvah. >> but a, that you were there in the '90s. i've heard it all before. we had joe comparing me to the hundreds of 1943. it got rough and i said you should write...

About. >> this is a beltway issue? and by that, i mean, do average folks, john q. six pack in middle america, does he understand fast and furious, and does he really care about it in an election year? >> that is a great question. i think up until now, it's been completely a beltway issue. people don't have time for washington scandals, they think basically washington politicians are all the same when it comes to not being very perfect. i think, though, that since the president invoked executive privilege, we've seen this get wider media coverage, beyond the beltway press. are you seeing it on ...