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Up, the voting pick up of how this is going to go, how real is the and how imminent what's coming. obviously there won't be indictments between now and election day, but i find it fascinating. not only this stake in the ground, but pieces of news that come out unofficial about the investigation as we get closer. >> because rod rosenstein doesn't need to talk to major newspapers, one with a conservative bet at the journ "journal" saying mueller stace independent. >> we kind of know at this point. >> my last question has a short answer. is donny free to go? >> donny, you are free to go, but you ...

Independently confirming, but the journ"journal" reporting th allen weisselberg was also granted immunity by these prosecutors. what does that tell you, chuck? >> well, it tells me that they are either interested in what these two gentlemen had to say. pecker and weisselberg. at least about cohen. and perhaps about others. it is clear from the criminal information to which mr. cohen pled that members of the trump organization were deeply involved in criminal activity. prosecutors obviously decided that what weisselberg did and what pecker did didn't wriz ris level where they wanted to prosecut...

Operative suggested to others that he was working with michael flynn who later became the national security adviser. the journ"journal" reports thatr w. smith told associates and people he tried to recruit to help him that he was "talking to lieutenant general flynn about the project." emails written by flynn and one of his associates back up the story. flynn's role if he had any, is unclear. >> this is the "wall street journal" reporting. flynn was then a senior adviser to candidate trump. in an e-mail he said he knew flynn but never said flynn was involved. the 81-year-old smith died ten day...

Congressman harold ford jr. joining the conversation. >> good morning. >> you have a piece in the journ journal. >> tell us about it. >> a question was asked when president obama is re-elected how does he work with congress and what would you recommend? >> i recommend embracing simpson-bowles, moratorium on new regulation and three, a massive public/private infrastructure bank to make investments across the country to increase and improve our infrastructure. >> in the "wall street journal." we also have as part of our must reads from "the new york times" maureen dowd and writes, obama doesn't ...