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Underway. Campaigning for Kim Harris in michigan right now after the event, Shawn Fain will join us to discuss the importance of Union Support in this election. Another hour of velshi begins right now. Ns right now. 31 days until Election Day with voting underway in several states and both campaigns ramping up their efforts as we enter the final highstakes push to november 5th. Vice president harris is expected to travel to North Carolina to survey the damage caused by Hurricane Helene while Donald Trump alongside the Tech Billionaire Elon musk will be in butler, pennsylvania, returning to the site for the first time since the Assassination Attempt against him in july. Meanwhileag Bernie Sanders and Sean Fain are rallying Union Members in michigan. We will talk to Sean Fain later in the show. The month before the Election Day, mistakes could not be higher. Republican plans and agenda 47 to drastically alter the structure of the federal government and reshape the power around a man who

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 13:09:00

night making a lot of noise hope that they would do and perhaps that was the motive of the leaker. we just don t know whether that was the motive or not. i think joe is right that it s not going to be the same. i just don t know. of course, we simply don t know whether it could end up different. it wouldn t shock me if the final decision upholds the mississippi law but doesn t strike down roe. pete in that same statement justice roberts called this a singular and egregious breach of trust. i won t ask you to speculate on who leaked it. i don t know. what about the impact on the court? as you ve said from the early moments when this story came out in politico, this is without precedent in modern history. what is the impact on the trust

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 13:07:00

that s been made public and what ends up happening at the end. joe is right about one thing. the final decision won t look exactly like the leaked opinion that we ve seen, because they never are. this is the first draft. remember, it s not just to see how it s changed when the dissenters get their hands on it and make suggested changes. the people in the majority may also say, you know, i can t join this part of it or i can t join unless you make these changes. so that kind of thing goes on all the time. it s undoubtedly true that this draft that we saw dated february 10th is not going to be the way the final decision looks. that is 100% true. bottom line question, though, will it still overturn roe v wade? that s the big question. i think it s absolutely right to say it s never safe to assume based on what justices say in oral argument that that s the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 13:04:00

collins said it s completely inconsistent with what they said in private conversations. lisa murkowski had this to say. do you think justice kavanaugh lied to you? i m not going to comment on that. do you feel misled by some of the candidates? [ inaudible ] got to say really one of the things that surprises me from court watchers, from other people that have followed the supreme court for a very long time is, this presumption that what came out yesterday is going to be what everybody s going to see when the court finally brings down its decision. you have the chief justice of the supreme court saying there s nothing in this ruling, the

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 13:11:00

so pete, we heard yesterday many people speculating about why it may have been dropped in early may for early june or july decision. we, of course, won t know the answer to that for some time. could you explain to our friends that are watching the process? what part of the process was the supreme court in? some people said, oh, the majority has it for a while, they have the draft and this was the time that the concurrences started, when roberts could start trying to move amy coney barrett or kavanaugh his way. is that right? how does this process work and what stage were we in when this leak dropped on monday? we were in the very early stages here. because what happens is immediately after the case is argued it was argued december 1st.

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