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Are stories from all sorts of places. msnbc is partisan in many ways. that didn't mean they can't do factual reporting. erik, i wonder if that's something they may have to remind viewers or viewers may have to come around to believe. >> that's a really good point. y think we should get this notion just because your a partisan journalism out fit you can't do news or break news. maddow had the rand paul thing. every time we watch her, we know she has a great or fabulously entrenched world view. i'm not saying world view itself is fabulous, but anyway she has done a lot of that. mother jones' vie...

Post about what that was like. a story like this just show that msnbc is to the left what fox is to the right? >> i don't think that there's an equivalency quite that way. kate basically took all the words out of my mouth. what cornaki did was reporting. he added a significant dimension to this story. while certainly there was a lot of blather on the msnbc airwaves this week, everybody talked about christie and the story in terms of reporting much, he was sitting there, documenting this new revelation about dawn zimmer, i think that's a fairly significant addition in the "new york times" and j...

Segments were really good. and i think they are a great reminder to all of us who think that partisan or ideologically invested journalism can't do anything on news. they can. >> do you think it will create more attention for msnbc, though. erik, kate, thanks for joining us. >> thanks, brian. remember, i'm always interested in hearing what you think about the show. what you're hearing today. brian stelter. live tweeting shoet thanks to my fiance over on twitter as well. directv versus the weather channel. epic media battle. we'll explain it, coming up. [ female announcer ] you get sick, you ...

Christie extensively and eric wemple of the washington post. kate, let me start with you. gleeful to describe msnbc. do you think that's a fair word? >> in some cases certainly the later evening hosts, rachel maddow and lawrence o'donnell. do we ever suspect that they were anything but liberal television hosts? steve cornaki has been pretty fair. well versed in new jersey. we started his reporting career there. actually, his story was fairly well reported. he talked about christie's reaction and pressed dawn zimmer pretty forcefully on why didn't you come forward if this is really what you wer...

Complaining about tone of coverage. i think what matters are the facts. >> i wonder if it's going to further hurt nbc news. nbc news would love to have interviews with chris christie, gop debates in 2016. do you see this affecting nbc news at all? a high-profile possible candidate for 2016? >> i do. nbc news people i talked to are always somewhat wondrous or, you know, shaking their heads about the fact that especially in the daytime and into prime time as well. there's a lot of talk and not enough reporting. but as i say, i think this cornaki thing steers it in a new direction. it's an intere...