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Around that happens, to use the last segment, chris' example, i think, was quite correct, about the political problems of reviewing kavanaugh information. we have similar problems in this arena, but the reason we have those problems is it was done around an example related to trump. this fisa warrant, you focused on page, was it used for criminal purposes? yes, indeed, it was. page was an avenue into the trump campaign. and we still have a special counsel who was appointed with no criminal predicate. >> didn't have to have one. >> still, no named criminal predicate. that is contrary to doj aut...

Concerning this confirmation, and they sit on it for six or eight weeks? that's unacceptable. dianne feinstein is responsible for that. there's absolutely no excuse. it is one thing to -- >> right. >> -- to keep our identity private and not go public with it. but there's no reason it should not have been divulged to that committee. no reason. >> a couple follow-ups. one, why doesn't the president open it up to the fbi? you'll get your wish if it's behind closed doors, and you get somebody to vet the information. >> well, i don't think that you can say that he hasn't asked the fbi. we don't kno...

Court and his nomination should be pulled. >> well, look, i take your point on that. i do think as a middle ground, they could have given it to the fbi and taken it away from the senators. at least give the senators a basis of information for what their questions will be coming from. otherwise, they're just really going to be shooting in the dark here. and the fbi could have done that. it doesn't seem that they'll be allowed to. the white house could ask them to do it. there hasn't been any move there. we'll see. while i have you, a lot of this is about the politics of perception and what peop...

Court, dr. ford reaches out to "the washington post" and to her congresswoman, democrat ana eshoo. but she didn't want her name in the press, that's a key fact. later that month, after president trump nominated kavanaugh, ford contacted the ranking democrat on the senate judiciary committee, dianne feinstein, but still insisted she wanted to remain anonymous. that created a twist here, a tension. early august, she took a lie detector test at the suggestion of her lawyer, not the lawmakers, and "the washington post" says she passed. not admissible in court, but it is some reliability to her tes...

Here. the white house should go to the fbi and say, open up the background again. take this information. take a look. do some digging. what can you corroborate? what can you find? what should we know? at least at that point, the senators could ask educated questions about this, know what they're talking about, other than just spewing questions that reflect self-interest, as opposed to the interest in the truth. now, why do i have this up here? because although i don't love it as an analogy, this is the closest thing we have in current history as to what happens in a situation like this with th...