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Side may not be equal to the percentage point on the other. we saw that. >> it's true. having voters that aren't going to leave you no matter what, changes the scale. michael smerconish, well done. always a pleasure. >> good to see you guys. >> he did steal the line. >> he did. vice president mike pence is pushing back hard on this "new york times" report that suggests he and many others are keeping options open in 2020 just in case the president doesn't run for a second term. we'll tell you what he's saying and why it may be just a smidge doth protest too much next.

Responsible. >> i think he's seeing that president trump is unable to change the direction, the overall direction of american-russia relations. so as a matter of style, of keeping options open, the timing, doing it now, not waiting until the president signed the sanctions, gives them a bit of an opening to play a card perhaps sometime in the future, alisyn. i think we're in this pretty dark state for a long time. >> it's a pretty interesting note, you think he's trying to give the president some space. the vice president is in the baltics. vice president mike pence actually made the claim -- a...

Our region, what is it that we know about korea where we can apply leverage? >> i think it is a good sign that secretary mattis went out and tried to turn down the volume a little bit on the rhetoric. i think that's important that potential for miscalculation on kore korean peninsula is pretty high. thousands of u.s. troops and korean troops staring at north korean troops on the other side of the border on a daily basis. they are already on a hair pin trigger. it is good that mattis chose to turn down the volume on that. i will say keeping options on the table is smart tactically. i think opti...

>> the other question i had when i read that statement though, is how concerned would a terror group be about safely moving the material, i'm not sure they would mind moving it if it's not that safe to do so. we'll have to wait and see. jim accost to, you were at the white house when the president was speaking. you pressed him about the possibility of mission creep, president obama saying 300 advisors, he said non-combat forces, probably green berets, navy saleeals, rangers going to baghdad. what did he say? >> anderson, another example of why president obama is a cautious commander in chief. ...

Iraq again. but he also said it's in the national security interests of the u.s. to make sure iraq does not become a safe haven for terrorists. so that's why he is keeping options open for airstrikes. but by the way, those options for air strikes could take place in iraq or syria. senior administration officials are not ruling that out. and at the same time, while this is a cautious move to only send in military advisers, anderson, senior administration officials were explaining earlier today that they're going to be going in, these advisers and teams of 12 or so when they go out with iraqi fo...