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first secret meeting between the united states and cuba took place, a meeting with a kennedy aid, richard goodwin in august of 1961 in asking for better relations, mutual respect. for the castros, fidel has lived long enough to see this. raul has an and dane to modernize and transform the cube an economy from socialism to capitalism. he needs the united states for that. cubans don't want to live under the dark shadow of a national security threat from the united states. they prefer to not deal with that and have u.s. tourists and people come here and travel and spend money and have normal relations. >> peter kornbluh, sounds like you'll have another book that will be in the offing. thanks for joining us. >> well, we need to write the new chapter for this one. that's for sure. thanks for having me.