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Nominated john carey, right? >> yes, that was his speech where he said there is no red america, there is no blue america, there is only the united states of america. well, he got into office and he found out there actually is a red america and blue america. and they don't meet very often. >> neil: but one speech can do it, right, one moment where the public -- >> sure. >> neil: -- is first exposed to you. the closest thing to john kennedy on whom you're a great expert, exposure in the 1956 democratic convention where he was touted as possible vice-presidential candidate. that can stick with pe...

Problem with them. i have the transcript, did you say that but you also said i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation so if you said i would not advocate we put a catholic in charge of the nation as some people did when alan done ran for president and kennedy ran, or if you said i don't have advocate we put a jewish person in the white house, you would get the same outcry, probably more outcry. so do you see the point of the other side? >> no. i wouldn't advocate that we put a christian in there either if their agenda was a theocracy. if they were not willing to subje...

Problem with them. i have the transcript, did you say that but you also said i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation so if you said i would not advocate we put a catholic in charge of the nation as some people did when alan done ran for president and kennedy ran, or if you said i don't have advocate we put a jewish person in the white house, you would get the same outcry, probably more outcry. so do you see the point of the other side? >> no. i wouldn't advocate that we put a christian in there either if their agenda was a theocracy. if they were not willing to subje...

Vulture capitalist. by contrast, look at 1980. the only time a republican has taken out an incumbent president in 100 years. that's reagan running against jimmy carter. who had the worst primary there? literally, the incumbent, carter, did. kennedy ran against him right up until the democratic convention. they were saying they were going to stay home, vote for john anderson, the liberal independent candidate. you want to other guys to have a brutal, bruising primary, which is why i'm heavily promoting elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, joe biden. i want them all in the race. you want your ow...

Public policy, rather than getting into transsubstantiation. but i do want to make the point i mentioned earlier. which is people who are, i would say below the age of 40, don't understand that the kind of religion talk we're having in presidential campaigns is really quite new. nobody -- dwight eisenhower, i don't know what his private religious belief were. dwight eisenhower and abraham lincoln did not go around talking about how their private religious beliefs or nonbeliefs applied to the issues of the day. and one of the, it's very important for people to realize that this constant bringin...