Right? there always is this sense that the culture despises conservativism or derides conservativism and so that you're stuck with the kid rocks of the world or what's his name, ted nugent, and that you can't really get like the popular current sort of cool sort of world of celebrity because it's so liberal. but it's -- the rush of people to just be giddy after saying we don't want the culture, but then when you have kanye on the side of trump, the giddiness that now is erupting into this idea of having a summit. daryl scott, who once said that he could get the gang members to talk to trump, n...