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Giving citizenship to 1.8 million people here. that's a huge number. there's a lot of gray areas. i think that's why you're seeing the senate debate. it is not as black and white as it has been framed. the debate is getting more sophisticated. if you have prohibition on legal immigration you'll have more illegal immigration. if you end the entitlement state which republicans and democrats are not willing to do, you're going to see a vast shift in immigration in this country. i think that's ultimately what people want. >> when you look at lamarr smith who said no way to amnesty and you look at ...

the debate is over how to pay for it. i think that we're now in the position of needing the senate to actually do something so we can have a real negotiation. >> how important is it that the house and senate meet the june 30 deadline. what happens if this is not extended in the next several days? >> the rates would go up by law. they would jump up to 6.8%. if you put it in terms of perspective, it is not a big hit. right up front. this comes out to $7 a month. the so, i think we have time to get this right, but there is no reason to drag it out. that is where the frustration is. we a...

from my perspective, we in the house have already taken action. we have passed legislation that would keep those subsidized loan interest rates at 3.4%. we understand very well that that was not well received by our friends in the senate or the white house. the speaker and the majority leader came forward with a proposal for different offsets. this was one of those things where everybody thinks it is a good idea for these rates not to double. the debate is over how to pay for it. i think that we're now in the position of needing the senate to actually do something so we can have a re...

it's the first major attack in mumbai since 2008, m me than 160 people were killed in 60 hours of terror. blamed on militants based in pakistan. these latest bombs have been describe as relatively crude and possibly the work of local militants. whoever's behind them, they've shown that india's largest city is still vulnerable. caroline hawley, bbc news. the president and congressional negotiators return to the debt negotiations table today after yesterday's meeting ended in confrontation. those in the meeting said that president obama announced enough is enough, we have to be willi...

of terror. blamed on militants based in pakistan. these latest bombs have been describe as relatively crude and possibly the work of local militants. whoever's behind them, they've shown that india's largest city is still vulnerable. caroline hawley, bbc news. the president and congressional negotiators return to the debt negotiations table today after yesterday's meeting ended in confrontation. those in the meeting said that president obama announced enough is enough, we have to be willing to compromise, before walking out of the room. the moody's rating service is threatening to ...