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my time. i feel like i should deserve a second opportunity. >> do you think there's something about the united states where we are fascinated by con artists, grifters, liars, is there something that we like, that we find interesting? >> i would say so, yes. i was thinking, if i were to be prosecuted for similar crimes in germany, i don't think people would really care. >> you can check out more from what is a fascinating interview on cnn.com. "new day" continues right now. it is thursday, october 13th. i'm brianna keilar with john berman. two years after the capital riot donald tru...

>> we realized it wasn't the deterrent we thought it was going to be. we had tactical troops well positioned in germany in the time and use them as a retreat and withdraw as russian troops were coming, we were outnumbered 6 to 1 at the time, we had no expectations we needed the weapons to keep the russian troops from coming towards us, it renders the land worthless as they come through the nuclear waste land they're exposed to radio active and increases the casualties. >> the idea of a limited nuclear use, there was no way to limit it. once you start it rolls out of control. >> yes. escalating...

Swim across three rivers, cross three interstates and end up over here. >> the designated land in louisiana is privately owned and has been in one family for generations. >> it's land that my family has owned for well over 100 jeers, it's an actively managed tree farm. my great grandfather started a lumber company after the civil war. he built a lumber railroad in these areas in order to bring the timber down. we are standing right now in the middle of an area of about 1500 acres the fish and wildlife service has certified is a critical habitat for frogs that have not been here for many, many ...

Worthless to potential developers, which could cost him $30 million. he's suing to get the designation removed. reed hopper is the attorney representing him. >> so how did the agency ever determine this was required for the preservation of the species? and on top of that, the frog doesn't exist here. >> yes. >> can't exist here. >> the government argues the designation does not necessarily restrict further development and would only affect activities that involve a federal permit or a license. >> nothing could be further from the truth, that's a big lie, the fact of the matter is, when an area...