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that? >> yes. they helped them pick the sites. more over, i talked to ali safan who was the case agent on the uss cole and the was the most significant interrogator. >> the uss cole which was bombed in yemen. >> right. he interviewed many of the suspects that were picked up in pakistan after they came out of tora bora. and he said in every single case, he said they were met by lashkari taibeh operatives who took them to safe houses. and lashkar is widely seen as being an apparatus of the isi, supported and nurtured by it, as is the taliban. >> how can it be, though, this country which we have given billions of dollars. >> millions. >> and continue to is playing this kind of double, triple game? >> well, they have gotten away with it because we're so paralyzed with fear about their nuclear weapons and what might with those. but anderson, we're going to have to find a way to call the bluff on this nuclear game,