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regard to forensic evaluation or there just isn't anything significant with regard to latents or dna that's comparable. you're relying on cctv and potential witnesses or accomplices that finally want to report on this individual. >> may also speak to someone who is skilled, right, at avoiding leaving those kinds of clues. elie honig, i want to talk about the other broader investigation here, and that is the straight-up effort to overturn the election. the sum total of what we're learning from the committee before releasing its report that strikes me is the number of people who were in touch with the white house by text. sean hannity among them, but he's not alone. republican members of congress who seem to be aware of what the plan was, to straight-up reject the electoral votes from swing states. we're a year later. why no consequences legally for those people? >> well, it's a great question, jim. it's one i'm going to be thinking about when we watch the
writing, do you have a problem with that, that's what he said trayvon martin said? >> right. correct. >> reporter: in that book, he says zimmerman said martin tried to reach for the weapon on his hip, actually touching the gun. >> the defendant is claiming that the victim actually grabbed the gun, grabbed the -- >> that was my understanding, that he grabbed the gun. >> reporter: but a latent print technician found no trace of martin's prints but conceded rain could have washed it away. >> so fingerprints may have exited on an item that you have lift a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> correct. >> even though it's been handled by two or three people? >> that's correct. >> reporter: osterman wrote that zimmerman held down his hands, fearing he might be still be a
book about the case. >> you wrote a book where you quoted what the defendant, george zimmerman, told you, correct? >> correct. >> and you recall in that book writing, do you have a problem with that, that's what he said trayvon martin said? >> right. correct. >> reporter: in that book, he says zimmerman said martin tried to reach for the weapon on his hip, actually touching the gun. >> the defendant is claiming that the victim actually grabbed the gun, grabbed the -- >> that was my understanding, that he grabbed the gun. >> reporter: but a latent print technician found no trace of martin's prints but conceded rain could have washed it away. >> so fingerprints may have exited on an item that you have lift a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> correct. >> even though it's been handled by two or three people? >> that's correct. >> reporter: osterman wrote that zimmerman held down his hands, fearing he might be still be a threat, but the teen's hands were underneath his body.
>> reporter: in that book, he says zimmerman said martin tried to reach for the weapon on his hip, actually touching the gun. >> the defendant is claiming that the victim actually grabbed the gun, grabbed the -- >> that was my understanding, that he grabbed the gun. >> reporter: but a latent print technician found no trace of martin's prints but conceded rain could have washed it away. >> so fingerprints may have exited on an item that you have lift a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> correct. >> even though it's been handled by two or three people? >> that's correct. >> reporter: osterman wrote that zimmerman held down his hands, fearing he might be still be a threat, but the teen's hands were underneath his body. >> you call that being underneath his body? >> yes, sir.
correct. >> reporter: in that book, osterman said zimmerman tried to reach for the weapon on his hip, actually touching the gun. >> the defendant is claiming that the victim actually grabbed the gun, grabbed the -- >> that was my understanding, that he grabbed the gun. >> reporter: but a latent print technician found no trace of martin's prints but conceded rain or other factors could have washed prints away. >> so that fingerprints may have existed on an item that you have a list from a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> correct. >> even though it's been handled by two or three people? >> that's correct. >> reporter: osterman wrote that zimmerman jumped on the teen's back after the shooting and held down martin's hands, fearing mighten still might be a threat, but indicated the teen's hands
can use a minute amount of oily substance that is the print itself, right? >> yes. >> and water can wash that away? >> yes. >> so that fingerprints may have existed on an item that you would lift a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> that's correct. >> even though the gun's been handled by one, two or three people? >> that's correct. >> any other latent work or fingerprint work that you did have anything to do with the zimmerman case? >> no. >> great, thank you. nothing further. >> any redirect? >> no, your honor. >> thank you very much. may the witness be excused? >> she may. >> thank you. you are excused. couns counsel, approach for just a moment, please. >> while the lawyers take a quick side bar, let's talk about the case with our legal experts
fingerprint can lead a minor amount of oily substance that actually is the print itself, right? >> yes. >> and water can wash that away? >> yes. >> so that fingerprints may have is existed on an item that you would lift a latent from, and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> that's correct. >> even though the gun has been handled by one, two or three people. >> that's correct. >> any other latent work or fingerprint work that you did have anything to do with the zimmerman case? >> no. >> great, thank you. nothing further, your honor. >> thank you. redirect? >> no, your honor. >> thank you very much. may this witness be excused? >> she may. >> thank you. you are excused. couns counsel, approach for just a moment, please.