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In completely new territory. we would have been very far beyond any familiar frontier of constitutional governance and in the midst of a crisis unlike anything this country encountered in more than a century. ian bassen served under president obama, now director of organization dedicated to fighting effort to see under mine democracy and joins me now which ian, as someone who worked in former white house councils office and familiar with executive orders and their drafting, what's your reaction to this document as a document? >> first off, it's incredible if it was in the oval office and prese...

A lot of acting, and a lot of motion capturing, which are kind of mixing those two things together, get somebody like andy serkis — who understands the special—effects side, also understands the acting side, understands how to put all this stuff together. yeah, he's such an interesting man, isn't he? he really is. he's a really kind of polymath. and the best thing about this was its really kind of funny. i mean, i've seen comedies in which i have laughed much less than i did in venom, you know, it's passes the six laugh test within the first 20 minutes. it's got, sort of, rip—roaring rid...

Up being four people inside two different bodies. so, the first venom, i thought it was a bit of a slog. never really worked for me. this is much more fun. the script is by kelly marcel, and the story is by her and tom hardy. and it's directed by andy serkis. now, if you are going to make a film which involves a lot of special effects, a lot of acting, and a lot of motion capturing, which are kind of mixing those two things together, get somebody like andy serkis — who understands the special—effects side, also understands the acting side, understands how to put all this stuff together. ye...

And the best thing about this was it's really funny. i mean, i've seen comedies in which i have laughed much less than i did in venom, you know, it's passes the six laugh test within the first 20 minutes. it's got, sort of, rip—roaring ridiculous action sequences. it's got great big monstrous apartitions and the usual kind of, you know, fighty, crashy, bangy stuff, but it is smart and it's sharp, and believe me, nobody had lower expectations than i did, because i really didn't enjoy the first venom very much at all. and i saw this this morning and i just sat there, it's 90 odd minutes long, ...

And suggested that the nation's leaders should not allow others to manipulate our institutions when we don't like the outcome that -- we don't get the outcome that we like. brian, are they protesting just a little too much here? i mean, we were not born yesterday. >> i think they're trolling us, i think justices like alito and clarence thomas and now justice barrett know full well the havoc politically they would be wreaking by allowing this anti-abortion statute in texas to stand, and now they're going on a goodwill tour attempting to put the genie back in the bottle claiming that the court i...