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Somebody caught in the middle of it, and that does not excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, we have talked about abuse of power and bribery when we started, we said we would also discuss obstruction of congress. So i would like to ask you some questions about obstruction of congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with a high crime and misdemeanor of obstruction of congress . I think that there is more than enough. As i mentioned in my statement, i just really underscore this. The third article of impeachment, approved ...

Courts, it is an abuse of power. it is your abuse of power. you are doing precisely what you're criticizing the president for doing. we have a third branch that deals with conflicts of the other two branches. and what comes out of there and what you do with it is the very definition of legitimacy. >> let's unpack what you have been talking about. first of all, the mcdonald case, how was i decided? was that split court, where we really torn about that? >> yes, it came out unanimous, so did other the next cases that i cited my testimony that refute these criminal theories. >> one of the things t...