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Outlined the procedures here so thats correct commissioner marshall. The commission has a document thats Available Online on Commission Website and its section roman numeral 14, subsection c. Theres a timeline and process for submitting proposed findingings from the department and from the officer as just summarized by Department Officer alden. My concern is that if it does go on and on and on, so with the procedure outline, i cant see going any further than tonight. Well, i would ask that you give me the benefit of the doubt. Im not an attorney. Nobody from the Police Commission told me that ...

Findings that are before you, but in the end its the commissions findings and decision about what best states how they analyzed and decided the case. I just want to make sure were looking at the right document. Is this the document dated im looking at the date up here. It is the [inaudible]. Yeah, you have thats the one you have proposed findings from mr. Alden that came in dated february 15 of this year. Correct. And you have proposed findings that i submitted to you through the Commission Secretary and the date on top of there is november 11 of this year. Okay. Thats the final document that ...

Different perspective maybe and in doing so ive researched the Mission Statements and the purposes of the Police Commission, the occ and sfpd cause they are three separate organizations. The commission oversees or whatnot the occ to their determination of their needs. Ive seen budgets for the occ is 4 point something million a year and they are required to have one investigator for every 150 officers employed, so if theyre shy three, ones on medical leave or whatever, thats i dunno if that counts technically or not, but if theyre short three thats in violation of the city charter. I dont know ...

Yes, january 1. Two more this year so we wont meet until the 8th again in the new year. I just wanted to make sure. Time went by fast. You guys can come, i wont be here. Any other comments in reference to items covered. Hello commissioners. Im still preparing an analysis on the information in a different perspective maybe and in doing so ive researched the Mission Statements and the purposes of the Police Commission, the occ and sfpd cause they are three separate organizations. The commission oversees or whatnot the occ to their determination of their needs. Ive seen budgets for the occ is 4 p...

Okay. So we have that inspector . Yes. Okay. We just got the nod from the department. And this brings up a question. Is i dont recall whether the occ, if thats happening. Does that happen in tandem or whether thats separate, the capital, you know, items for the occ. Do you do your requests at the same time of year and same process . For some reason it didnt come up in this whole scheme. The o cc doesnt have a Capital Budget so thats why it didnt come up. So its just a couple of cars essentially. I dont know, maybe that doesnt automobiles dont fall under capital. I dont know, commissioner kings...