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And spy part. the transcript of the phone call suggests it's not as perfect as the president says, but for you to say that the president was extorting a governor leader and somehow spying, how do you back that up? >> the extortion he essentially went to the president of ukraine and said, if you don't provide for me dirt on joe biden and that's through a back channel, a shadow foreign policy, then i'm not going to provide you with military aid to defends your country under attack by russia right now. that's extortion and using our tax dollars to do that for his own personal political benefit. t...

There you go. real quick, either you fellows think michael bloomberg changes anything, yes or no? >> no, not at all -- i think what bloomberg does is he -- he wants to shape the conversation, as far as electoral threat i don't think so. >> do you agree with that? >> i totally agree when you're polling at 2 or 3% in iowa, it's not a factor. [laughter] leland: there we go. >> 2 for leland, oh my, okay. leland: we might find something that you guys disagree in sound bites, take a listen to bernie sanders and his new campaign trail partners. >> who is ready for the revolution? [cheers and applause...

Sanctuary cities -- >> katie: yes, there is. san francisco, california just is trying to be a sanctuary state. >> the federal government can take these folks write back right now. we are so intent -- >> you should tell -- francisco, you should tell that to the family of a young woman who was murdered in northern california because the authorities there did not inform the federal authorities when they released a guy from prison, from custody -- >> katie: okay. i'm going to interject and ask francisco another question. we all know about that case, we are going to move onto another topic. francis...

His successes have been based upon executive orders. not based on negotiating, it's the ability that the president has been able to do things and every president has done so. the contract is two pages long and he said he'd get everything done in the first 100 days. his ideas of aspirational are out rageously ridiculous. he needs to start listening to the likes of paul ryan and mitch mccomb on the hill and say this is our path forward, this is what we can get done and stop going out on the campaign trail and stop saying things that are unreal lick. >> that's, saying we're going have a vote and ...

>> you would look to think based on the wording of his tweet he has already done that. or he knows the source of where he got this information from. if you dial it back a little bit. we already have the obama, obama spokesperson saying, we had nothing to do with it. we had former director of national intelligence, james clapper saying he didn't have anything to do with it. it could have still gone on he wouldn't know about it. matthew brings up the point about the warrant. who would know about that? loretta lynch? what did she know. >> the president of the united states could call the departme...