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This is not the way i would have done it, but this is a universal system, other countries use this universal system and it's time america join the reck -- rest of the world. >> governor dean, should democrats run on this, should they go home and say this is what we accomplished, the supreme court's with us and let's move forward, is that a good play for the democrats? >> they can, ed, but the truth is the republicans are doing this to whip up their base, they are not doing this because -- swing voters like what's in this bill. they do. they don't like the mandate, but they do like the benefits...

Because he pioneered the bill, so for him to criticize is it just ludicrous. thirdly, george is right, i wasn't a big fan of the bill, thought the house did a great job of the bill, wasn't a fan as it came out of the senate, but there are a lot of good things in this bill that are going to make a big difference to people. i'm a little nervous about the medicaid ruling because medicaid has insured more people under this bill than anything else, and i want to take a look and see if that got undermined by the reservations judge justice roberts had, but in çgeneral, it's a great day for the pres...

Alcohol. >> and you would put a santa hat on -- >> often we would. it was always lying around. all right. that's my thanksgiving. >> that's tradition. >> that's family. >> and joe -- and joe talked about -- joe talked about his thanksgiving which had a wonderful tradition where he talked about where his dad would cite a poem that was longer -- but also they would hold hands and now that's what he's trying to do in his family around the dinner table, which i think is really lovely. it's not a horse in the house, but it's a beautiful tradition. >> it's a wonderful thing to do. i love it. >> it's...

On -- >> often we would. it was always lying around. all right. that's my thanksgiving. >> that's tradition. >> that's family. >> and joe -- and joe talked about -- joe talked about his thanksgiving which had a wonderful tradition where he talked about where his dad would cite a poem that was longer t e but also they would hold hands and now that's what he's trying to do in his family around the dinner table, which i think is really lovely. it's not a horse in the house, but it's a beautiful tradition. >> it's a wonderful thing to do. i love it. >> it's a wonderful thing to do. >> that's a goo...

You get to a point where, you know, it's not all bad being confederate. it's part of the southern heritage. what happened on the field 149 years ago is just as much as part of the slavery history, the american soldiers history, the federal soldiers, confederate soldiers, it's all our history. >> fire. >> do i want to be a drumadear? it's history, let's keep it that way. let's move forward, you know, let's all come together as americans. >> that's one perspective on the controversy. now, we also spoke today to an african-american who owns a will. stand in the heart of richmond, the former capit...