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January 6th committee released text messages from some fox news hosts to then white house chief of staff mark meadows urging the former president to stop the capitol insurrection. joining us now, former nixon white house counsel and cnn contributor john dean and former federal prosecutor and cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeff, this is a big deal? >> it's a very big deal, but it's not a surprise. it's a basic principle of libel law, is if cnn puts mr. a on the air and mr. a says mr. b is a child molester, mr. b sues us, we can't say oh, well, it was just mr. a who said that, we were j...

Legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeff, this is a big deal? >> it's a very big deal, but it's not a surprise. it's a basic principle of libel law, is if cnn puts mr. a on the air and mr. a says mr. b is a child molester, mr. b sues us, we can't say oh, well, it was just mr. a who said that, we were just the transmission. that's what this case is about. fox said no, we didn't say that dominion is corrupt, the people we interviewed said that. the judge said first of all, some of these people, tucker carlson, maria bartiromo, lou dobbs among others, some of those did say that dominion was corrupt. bu...

I never talked to a ukrainian official until the state department asked me to do it and then i reported every conversation back to them and laura, i'm a pretty good lawyer, just a country lawyer, but it's all here. right here. >> i should sue you for libel because you irresponsibly -- >> oh, please. >> well you actually usually say incredibly stupid things. >> you're a public figure. >> yeah. and by the way, do you have any idea that the state department -- >> you know the libel law. >> shut up, moron. >> hold on. >> shut up. you don't know what you're talking about. you don't know what you're...

There's more. giuliani later returned to that show with an explosive response to comments by a panelist, democrat chris hahn who challenged giuliani's account and said giuliani's remarks would be libellous. >> i should sue you for libel because you irresponsibly said -- >> oh, please. >> you actually usually say incredibly stupid things. >> you're a public figure. >> yeah, and by the way, do you have any idea that the state department -- >> so then you know the libel law. >> shut up, shut up. >> shut up. you don't know what you're talking about. >> chris, chris, chris. >> you don't know what y...

Campaign commercials for the president's re-election and none ever have. and the white house counsel's office just made up the idea that senior white house officials are exempt from the hatch act. no one has ever believed that before. libel law by the way does not specifically mention social medial either but you can absolutely libel someone on twitter fright now and every lawyer in america and washington knows that the white house counsel wrote a legally empty defense of kellyanne conway today. the special counsel's report began with what she said publicly about her own violations of the hatc...