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They can go in drawing district lines for party gain. they think conservatives will say, look, courts can't step in here but others believe the courts need to step in. then there's an important liberty case. not far from here is a 40-foot cross on public land. some say that that violates the separation between church and state. so, those are the cases, like you said, there's 24. they all have to be decided by the end of this month. >> let me ask you about chief justice john roberts. a lot of focus on him here. of course, he is the chief justice. beyond that, why is there so much focus now? >> ...

States have been denied standing to defend their own law. that's one. in the liberty case, they kicked that case out, it was the only court to apply a law called the anti-injunction act which we talked about because it arose in our case as well. even the federal government concedes that doesn't apply. but these folks kicked it out on that. and then one of the judges actually ruled, the only judge in america opined that he would find the act cons constitutional as an exercise of the taxing power -- >> nobody says the tax. >> nobody. >> when the statutes passed, everyone ran from the concept tha...

States have been denied standing to defend their own law. that's one. over in the liberty case, they kicked that case out on standing. it was the only court to apply a law called the anti-injunction act, which we talked about sometime ago because it arose in our case as well. even the federal government concedes that doesn't apliesm but these folks kicked it out on that. and then one of the judges actually ruled, the only judge in america opined that he would find the act cons constitutional as an exercise of the taxing power. >> nobody said to tax. >> nobody. >> when the statute was passed, e...