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Really do, i think regardless it is about someone who works inside of that port. and, for a long time, i mean i'm a lawyer. i'm someone who studies the law. i practiced the law. and i covered this for over a decade. i would say that there is a difference between the judiciary and the other two branches of government that is led by elected officials that these are a lifetime appointees who need to operate in a way that is separate from the political influences of the other branches. and, of course, it's politicize. the senate confirmation process makes it inexplicably -- politicized. but that i...

As attorneys together, is a very up front guy. he discussed this with senior ethics officials at the department of justice. he probably discussed it with bob mueller. his position is he doesn't need to recuse. perhaps mueller doesn't need him as a witness. look, i think he should stay in the case unless something else surfaces to suggest he has to get out. >> very quickly, were anything about the mueller investigation to reach the level of the supreme court, chuck, would that mean that neil gorsuch and the tba justice appointed by this president, would they have to recuse themselves? should th...

Party. >> and one quick note about this in the era of omarosa and her resignation and all of that, the fact is that virtually all of these, if not all of these nominees for u.s. attorneys' positions and federal judgeships have all been white men, no diversity at all, and, in fact, circuit court judges have been confirmed by this grassley committee to such an extent that this president in his first year has gotten confirmed more federal judges, lifetime appointees, than any other president in history, 228 years. grassley put that out to point out they are only rejecting a few. >> he held out no...

Neil gorsuch, on the supreme court. he could have the opportunity to nominate more justices. trump is also quietly filling up lower courts with lifetime appointees, and that can impact the judiciary for decades. environmental policy, trump famously pulled out of the paris accord, but also moving to roll back the clean power plants, the united states rule that protects smaller bodies of water and the arctic drilling ban. trz has slashed or delayed hundreds of business regulations, also moving to pull back the dodd-frank bill, effectively making it easier for those on wall street to once again g...

Well call it scotus care because the clear language in the law talked about state exchanges. so what does that mean for the american people when you have nine unelected lifetime appointees that can impact america in this -- such a profound way? >> it is dangerous to our constitution. they are making it up. these are political decisions. this is lawless. it's unconstitutional. >> what is the recourse? >> there are a couple of consequences. obamacare, that makes 2016 a referendum on repealing obamacare. if a 2016 presidential candidate isn't prepared to fight every day to repeal every word of ob...