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Reporting from "the new york times" and "the washington post" is that this appears to have been an informant who was stepping around the outskirts of the campaign, brushing up against people, trying to collect information that the -- people in the fbi was interested in to try to glean what kind of connections they may have had to russian officials at the time. and so you've got this pattern here of president trump and his allies like sean hannity talking about wiretaps in trump tower when what's publicly known is requests for lifting names inside fisa warrants and talking about embedding peopl...

Into the ties between russian officials and trump's campaign. and so when trump does things like says that an fbi informant was embedded in his campaign, that's an intentional exaggeration of the known facts to try to make it look like there was impropriety and overstepping of bounds when, you know, what we know based on the reporting from "the new york times" and "the washington post" is that this appears to have been an informant who was stepping around the outskirts of the campaign, brushing up against people, trying to collect information that the -- people in the fbi was interested in to ...

About wiretaps in trump tower when what's publicly known is requests for lifting names inside fisa warrants and talking about embedding people inside of a campaign when what's publicly known was much short of that. >> mieke, given your past experience with intelligence community product on the hill, how uncomfortable are you with this discussion of informants in the public sphere with how close to naming the guy two major publications have come tonight? >> i'm very uncomfortable with this. the identities of people who are confidential informants are very closely held. in a congressional invest...