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>> i did, she was such a sophisticated reader of the intelligence community product. i was serving overseas for the years she was sent of state and we would receive requirements from her, the things she needed to know, and they were like very clear requirements, important for the national security. she was also important to the c.i.a. visited our offices there and helped us development best management practices and another way she made a big impact on the intelligence community. >> john: very cordial, polite, but tough as nails underneath all that. >> i think there was a velvet hammer aspect. ...

Attorney general, bill barr, was given sweeping declassification powers by president trump earlier this year, which creates some anxiety, understandably, within the intelligence community about what could possibly be declassified or turned over to the justice department as part of this inquiry. of course, the justice department is fundamentally a criminal arm, so they're applying these criminal standards and criminal procedures to intelligence community product is generating a lot of nervousness. >> are you getting any official response from either the cia or haspel? >> no. we've gotten no res...

What witnesses you are going to be calling at trial. so this is not just a view of the department of justice. think of the indictment also as the intelligence community product. we don't talk about any other actors nit oi-- actors in it otr than the russian intelligence, and any others would be nonse nonsense. >> what do you see as detailed on friday that it would have to be as you said going through the intelligence community for vetting? what does it say to you that they were able to release it as wildly as they did with that much detail. >> it is fascinating to me, because i remember strugg...

Reporting from "the new york times" and "the washington post" is that this appears to have been an informant who was stepping around the outskirts of the campaign, brushing up against people, trying to collect information that the -- people in the fbi was interested in to try to glean what kind of connections they may have had to russian officials at the time. and so you've got this pattern here of president trump and his allies like sean hannity talking about wiretaps in trump tower when what's publicly known is requests for lifting names inside fisa warrants and talking about embedding peopl...

Inside fisa warrants and talking about embedding people inside of a campaign when what's publicly known was much short of that. >> mieke, given your past experience with intelligence community product on the hill, how uncomfortable are you with this discussion of informants in the public sphere with how close to naming the guy two major publications have come tonight? >> i'm very uncomfortable with this. the identities of people who are confidential informants are very closely held. in a congressional investigation, when there's an ongoing investigation, they won't even talk to you about that ...