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Been able to figure out his lane vis-a-vis elizabeth warren, vis-a-vis kamala harris. he's been very differential, for instance, to other republican members on that committee, something you wouldn't necessarily hear from kamala harris. he's got to figure out if this love message, i think, is right for moment or if it's too much of a retread of what we saw from obama. and you mentioned that. and the thing is, a lot of liberals, black liberals in particular, aren't too lahappy retrospect with the way obama played things. if you get everybody in a room and everybody sort of sings kum-ba-ya, you s...

But you are saying, people who live in san diego decades ago -- we had a much bigger illegal immigration problem decades ago. customs and data protection shows it's 90% down from the year 2000. when people push back like nancy pelosi and others have been paying attention, senator hirono, they say it's an emergency -- >> harris: if that's the case, why did they build 600 miles of wall? >> jessica: we've talked about this in a number of times. >> harris: if those numbers are true, and i don't doubt that your research is right, but if the end result of what you are saying is true then why do we n...

That might not be as much as needed to basically count them out. >> we at america rising are guilty as charged for asking some of those people whether or not they support nancy pelosi. the reason the trackers in the field are asking that question it is that lightning rod issue. she has become the face for what people dislike about the democratic party and the democratic leadership. not just among republicans but among progressives as well. she's not as far to the left as some of them would like her to be. and so i think for pelosi, look no further than oat high owe 12 where we had the democrat...

But i think in some ways you're giving the republicans a gift by saying, will have a debate whether or not i.c.e. should be abolished and the focus should be on what the administration did to the children. >> eric: is that a gift? we bring in a former trump campaign cochair and former senior advisor to the hillary clinton campaign. welcome to you both. lena, let me start with you. it is really a lightning rod issue. your heart goes out to the children. it is a horrible situation. but his holder correctly says it is a gift by some democrats calling for the abolishment of i.c.e.? >> is perhaps t...

Outstanding and everybody on that list is outstanding but i'll pick somebody who is outstanding. >> eric: that's president trump in an interview with maria bartiromo for sunday morning futures talking about his potential pick to replace retiring justice anthony kennedy. the president saying he will probably not ask his nominee to detail the position on the lightning rod issue of roe versus wade. the announcement who he will nominate comes july 9. one week from today. for the man who knows all the answers, judge napolitano. >> i wish i knew all the answers. >> eric: what's fascinating i'm not g...