They'll be benched. it is -- >> isn't as an owner, too, didn't he take a knee a few days ago? >> yeah, but that was all posturing, and i said it right here on this show last week that that was posturing. that was him trying to be the good guy by the president and by the players, but i wasn't fooled one bit. if you're -- if you're -- look, the problem i'm having is -- >> yeah. >> if you come out and he has the ability and the right. he's the owner and says hey, i don't want you disrespecting the flag, you won't play. i think that's kind of pushing the buck because i would have loved to see thos...