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i had actually read something a little while ago. very brief about that episode. and loved it. anyway people should check it out. >> thank you very much first of all. very kind of you to say. i should credit you actually because it was an interview with a journalist and historian on your podcast which in part got isaac and i really interested in that topic. it is what put it on the table for us to consider as one of our episodes. >> i love that. >> so you were part of the inspiration for doing that whole story. >> great. thank you, rachel. >> thanks, chris. much appreciate it. thanks...

>> the united states of america, versus donald j trump. >> we have one set of laws in this country. and they apply to everyone. >>, tonight the stunning 49-page indictment. 37 criminal counts, secret national security documents, strewn around his country club, on stage in a ballroom, on the floor in the bathroom. a conspiracy to hide them from the feds, and the lies that he told to cover it up. rachel maddow, lawrence o'donnell, aubry melbourne, joy, read -- are here for msnbc's special coverage of the second indictment of donald trump. good evening from new york. welcome back to our...

love taking your stuff. they let cities burn and businesses close and demand reparations. the california would require it a crime for employees to stop shoplifters. it is a law that enables criminals while handcuffing their victims. i don't mind the handcuffing if there is roleplaying involved, but not at your job, if you're trying to do your job. i learned that at my job with larry kudlow, he went home with the key. hard to put those pants on. as an employee, you have to take it as people ransack your workplace. when does this stop? car dealerships or tiffany's, why is it stuff you ...

bathroom, in a ballroom. there you see the photo of them being in a bathroom, boxes just stacked up there in the ballroom. i mean these are pretty flimsy cardboard boxes in a ballroom that is actively being used for events. there you see sensitive defense information, secrets that are only meant to be shared with a small handful of our closest allies, and they're strewn about the floor of a storage closet. and it's one thing to say that in an indictment, but it's another to support this with photographs. that was one of the things that really struck me in this indictment. but the bre...

he is a liar, a liar about shell corporations and money from communist china and about money from ukraine. a liar about money from romania. he is a liar about documents, a and his own history, we have a man in oval office who is a liar biden signed off on fbi review of trump records. national ca archive letters reveal from august. what are they talking about? biden white house at request of department of justice signed off to have fbi and intelligence community to examine hundreds of pages of classified information of former president trump -- >> there you have merrick going to depar...