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The topic this morning, load star. serves an inspiration, model or guide. some say it is a clue as to who wrote the new york times op-ed. who is the senior administration open efficiently? that is the -- administration official? that is the question on everyone's mind. this article calls out the president for immorality and reckless decision making. the writer saying, he or she, is offering the resistance working to neutralize the president's worst impulses. and claims of invoking the 25th amendment to remove donald trump from office. aides deciding not to risk a constitutional crisis. >> here...

Former chairman of the republican national committee, happens to be former lieutenant governor of the great state of maryland. and john heilemann, co-author of both "game change" and "double down." gentlemen, welcome to you both. john, home field advantage. first question goes to you. where do you stand on whether or not this anonymous author is a hero, whether he or she is better off staying or now leaving, and where do you stand on the kind of enter-moll ji of figuring out who this is? one word that jumped out at me, a word i highlighted on this broadcast when it first appeared in the nomenc...

This, which is not -- all of it is confirmation of things we already know except for one thing, which is the notion that the cabinet's had an active consideration at some point early on of the 25th amendment. that is news. if that is something that was serious and this is to be believed, the person who wrote this now has a duty i think to come forward. it's in the best interest of the country if he or she should do that. i think that there is a lot of word gaming going on. load star obviously focused a lot of people on mike pence. we know people in the trump administration, we who cover it kno...

Happens to be former lieutenant governor of the great state of maryland. and john heilemann, co-author of both "game change" and "double down." gentlemen, welcome to you both. john, home field advantage. first question goes to you. where do you stand on whether or not this anonymous author is a hero, whether he or she is better off staying or now leaving, and where do you stand on the kind of enter-moll ji of figuring out who this is? one word that jumped out at me, a word i highlighted on this broadcast when it first appeared in the nomenclature of national security, malign. about five people...

Sending out this message in a bottle to the world. >> now tell us who you are. >> now it is your obligation if you genuinely, given the news in this, which is not -- all of it is confirmation of things we already know except for one thing, which is the notion that the cabinet's had an active consideration at some point early on of the 25th amendment. that is news. if that is something that was serious and this is to be believed, the person who wrote this now has a duty i think to come forward. it's in the best interest of the country if he or she should do that. i think that there is a lot of ...