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Them talk about their recollections, the things that inspired them about your father. writing this must have been extraordinary for you. >> it was so much fun talking to people as diverse as bill clinton, barack obama, tim cook, howard shultz, bono, so many others, martin sheen, gloria steinem, who covered my father as a journalist in the 1960s, and hearing how they see him as their hero, as their load star. and, you know, hillary clinton famously said, when you ask somebody about me, i'm like a rorschach test. you learn more about them than you learn about me. so this book, you learn a lot ab...

Best strategy in the trump administration just to make it even more confusing than it already it is. >> i think it is certainly in their best interest to keep it as interesting as possible. i think for everyone else ourselves included is to get to the larger point, which you made zerlina. all of these points, all of these ten trils come back to the same point, what was donald trump and the people around him doing for themselves, specifically for him, versus for the american people? you can come back to the pressure now being placed on the d.o.j. to either reveal the source or to demand an open...

Of those things will be harder to do if we weaponize the crazy argument that those are all steps toward getting rid of all guns. you know, in a world that was as peaceful as i'd like it to be, nobody would have a gun. that's not our world. our culture is steeped in guns. i love the idea of setting up a north star, a load star but the load star should not be something that is so out of reach that these kids who are so passionate will simply become disillusioned. i don't want them to reach for something that's impossible and i don't want them to buy the idea if personal liberty to many people in...

Guns. maybe it was a good idea. i reject it. what is wrong with that as a north star? >> i think it's the wrong north star. i mean, i'm in favor of every one of the things that anna lists. universal background checks. getting rid of weapons on our streets. all of those are great but all of those things will be harder to do if we weaponize the crazy argument that those are all steps toward getting rid of all guns. you know, in a world that was as peaceful as i'd like it to be, nobody would have a gun. that's not our world. our culture is steeped in guns. i love the idea of setting up a north st...

Failed miserably and things are working now. why do they want a savior? why are they so full of hatred for this president? >> because the democrats, their entire ideology is built on the cult personality. what's the essence of conservatism at its core? big all rights from god. we have a lone star that guides us tall time. the person that gets us there is a vehicle. he isn't a golden calf for us. not the case with the left. their load star is the state. the representative of the state is the politician. they need a golden calf. oprah is the golden calf of the day. >> sean: congratulations on th...