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they d never seen architecture like this ng i imagine it was a whole new architecture language now i stick to a spot of homes for the lecturers called the masters houses were built near the school they all have the same flat roofs and were uniform on the outside inside however the residents could decorate them as they liked often with furniture produced in the bauhaus workshops these were model homes for modern living. rather gropius also won a competition to design the employment office and other buildings in the city. in one thousand twenty eight hummus maya took over as director of the bauhaus it was more political than the o.p. s and coined the slogan the needs of the people instead of the need for luxury the houses with balcony access were based on his
one of these was muscle boy or he was only twenty three when he reinvented the chair. flying from silly kandinsky and leo now finding out the many others boyle was a passionate cyclist when out only looked at his handle band thought it was fair he could make a change out of dark or buying some made from steel tubes that s really good i was born of a new father so short of war. we spun the row one further and designed the cantle leverage chair and icon of modernism. from under it capture the essence of what the other chance already hinted at. as just one line of bent to best deal with this cover then uses the elastic cushioning potential of the material alas the mukesh curved with my p.r. it s nuts this is a few dogs. we finished the tour with an interactive installation we can all become architects here creating about house landscape of our own using standard building
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walking around s.l. one gets easily missed the train car left a snack stand by you just keep your eyes open for it because it s also part of the south legacy it was built in one nine hundred thirty two following planned by the third and last director of the school me son does a lot. right next door and that gets out of our left side and rounds in the ensign phenolic can see. in the year two thousand. grounds of were declared a unesco world heritage site they were commissioned by leopold the third frederick france and duke and how death and just like the members of bauhaus he was trying to combine the practical with the visually appealing only one hundred fifty years earlier the result was a beautiful landscape full of castles parks and gardens. nature
and art can bind according to a plan. the third of. also known as prince france created the garden kingdom of decile virgil it s after numerous trips to england france and italy as a young man. in the park and gardens were inspired by those of antiquity as well as england. the promise of virgil it s was the first neo classical building in germany. france was very progressive for the times allowed his subjects to enter both the palace and garden. the whole thing is what special about the building is that it was always open to visitors of a kind of eighteenth century model building with prince funds was also interested in education has got. the garden kingdom attracted guests from all over europe from
portugal and russia for example through belief. and of course one of the visitors was johann both going from good to group to. prince france was a supporter of the enlightenment with its ideals of tolerance. and the landscape design reflects there s for example his vista connects a synagogue. with a catholic church. think house has two facades a neo gothic one of the front and one inspired by english tutor architecture at the back like many buildings here. it was designed by the architect fleetingly feel him fi have fun adam strong. learned is the first artificial volcano in europe inspired by the prince s trip to naples when he saw smoldering mount vesuvius.
the prince would invite thinkers some scholars to his table he wanted to be remembered as a father figure who would improve line for his subjects he thought that promoting education beyond science new methods by pre-concert could help improve conditions for the people. today about a million tourists visit the canton kingdom each year. this is and it s so wonderful and pleasant to walk around here and take it all in so let it all looks so well looked after in a very natural new but annoying also classical. we d love to stay here forever it just makes you happy to be here so happy. this bus has a special route. and it connects all the bauhaus buildings and
deaths at. the round also takes in an employment office designed by biotech o.p. s. the housing estate was built between one thousand nine hundred twenty six and one nine hundred twenty eight the city of death south commissioned about house to design affordable housing. over three hundred terraces were built along with gardens to promote self-sufficiency there are. also guided towards the badasses. their point small at sixty square meters. but the big windows given the
impression that there are bigger lighting and light and air. in this kitchen unit is original the stove would have warmed the whole house there was even a laundry at a time when not all homes had running water. new materials were tested. this house by architects and powerlink is made of steel. the prefabricated steel structures were supposed to make it possible to create different types of houses but the steel house remained the only one of its kind. this housing estates served as an example for the later housing complexes of european cities after the war these us students from san diego are impressed by the pioneering designs. i was surprised by
the attention that these designers put in the living experience of the people who are going to occupy these homes so for example the ability to expand rooms in the steel house that we visited where the windows are respect to the air in the light the way that the windows would open depending on the climate that you were experiencing at the time every little thing seems to have a purpose this was the design of an entire city like the fact that they were thinking about where people would need to eat and drink and what they would need to eat and drink just the basic necessities in creating affordable housing about houses like not just artistically progressive but also socially progressive and that s a whole aspect that we didn t understand. in tel aviv two people live and bathhouse buildings when the nazis came to power and germany many jewish architects fled to the mediterranean trouble us and with them they brought the ideas of power in the thirty s about four thousand houses were built following the teachings of the revolutionary german design school
a al-dabbagh one of our viewers is now going to show us a couple of them as well as many other cool things let s go with a local. so. my name is a video and i have the pleasure to work of you today in my hometown the city where i was born we have a beautiful day out there so please follow me that s explored a city. so first off will be the story part of the city just. we are now in the narrow streets of the beautiful old city of jaffa it is mentioned in the greek mythology and in the bible in the story of jonah and where the romans where he was the crusaders were here napoleon was here the british and now we are
it is full of art galleries and stores and restaurants. look at this even this amazing one of my favorite spots in the city sitting here in the story side of java and watching towards the new and modern city of tel aviv i have to come here with my friends drinking view and even take my romantic dates here at night. we are now in atlanta the first train station of tel aviv one of the popular and hard this is the nations of the fifty years you can see so please join me. ditto but today. as you can see we have beautiful weather so everyone is out there our festival is here and the beautiful is. the great thing about it the night that every day morning they have to make you going in for jordan you don t
let. a lot of event i know he can vibe in atmosphere i enjoyed the dances thinking together with the dancing it s just amazing it s a great feeling. so of course the visit to the view could not be complete without a visit to the famous to be. great to relax here. and now want to show you something unique about the city that have even those of the white fifteen in two thousand and three you ve got recognition is a unesco world heritage site and that is because we have the largest concentration
of both to be thinking toward. also knowing is the city that never sleeps it is the lively nightlife and the famous gay scene so let s go potty and have some fun. let s. elect. and so this was my day ahead of you i hope you. going to grow already by the. body guard. i met in the city park in the middle of desk where the new bauhaus museum is under construction ahead of the bow houses hundredth anniversary celebration.
held a press officer for bauhaus death so she s going to show me the building site. the museum is scheduled to open on september eighth twenty nineteen. in the. very young spanish architecture collective designed the museum was for these involved a design was chosen because the structure is so clear and corresponds to our needs so well. expect it with the minimalist glass facade. that s annoying to me spend a ruler. so there are basically two components if we look up now well and you see the suspended ceiling but it s basically a closed box that doesn t have any light and this is what s needed these days. so they won t be any natural lines and it s the complete opposite here on the ground floor where i will show contemporary work. there are still many bauhaus buildings
around they have house work. there is no museum in tesco yet there is the original boathouse architecture which is now ninety years old and not all that suited to be a museum of the museum was built to show our collection we have the second biggest house collection in the world over the years it s accumulated and it s now in the. us why is the bauhaus so legendary and. why is it so legendary in the one nine hundred twenty s. it was the only place in the world where young people architects designers artists . all very different types of personalities. they all came together had a common vision to rethink life in a modern way and they broke to blues in such a radical way that they are legendary today. and. so what hidden treasures are still in storage. i mean both going to annette
again he tells me what will be on display in the death house museum from next year onwards. what do we have here yes it s very colorful wash paper by oscar sham of course. he painted it in one thousand twenty three and then it stayed in his possession. and i can t really retrace how it came to was but anyway in one thousand nine hundred ninety one not long after german reunification of all the state of saxony and not us bought it at a southern base auction in london. they asked for how much was mad least one million marks that was the currency at the time. because this dress was designed in the one nine hundred twenty five twenty six who in the early
tests our era by the student liz forum did you know it was made famous by a photo taken by another student counselor a great photo of a woman sitting on the first jugular chair by marcel boy of. the through the tubular steel chair. and seamus mascot. name for there s never any simple repetition but always an interesting ballads and a lot of attention to. them this surface. when you get close you see it has a three dimensional structure it s not just any flat material that s been printed on it but it s not what women wore as their south the time. in berlin and the one nine hundred twenty s. there were short dresses bearing type carts. and that was real modernism in urban modernism book. the more dharma. no question of.
my day in deaths i was almost over time for one last bauhaus highlights the courthouse or granary the restaurant was built by bauhaus architect karl fieger and nine hundred twenty nine its name hints to the locations past as a big grain silo. there s so much power house to see and does how it s impossible to take it all in just one day but a day is enough to get a grasp of the essence of balls as revolutionary ideas and why they were so transformative for the generations that followed almost definitely me back and then the new bauhaus museum will be on the very top of my list but for now that s it thanks for watching and have a. there s
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Transcripts For MSNBCW All In With Chris Hayes 20180809 07:00:00


Chris Hayes discusses the day s top news.
crimes security fraud. an individual, a donald trump nominee who is occupying put in place by the chief judge of the district because the president did not get these nominees through the senate quickly enough. so it wound up the individual chief judge in the southern district pointed mr. berman permanently. and quite clear that we follow the facts regardless of politics. if there is evidence that you violated the law, you will be prosecuted. making frantic phone calls to his son, the allegations pretty amazing. caught on tape. thanks for joining me. caught on tape. thanks for joining me. i am joined by elizabeth
together. all of the intentional actions they took to hide information from the government to defraud banks to increase the amount of money they had access to. and confessed on the stand to stealing from the man he worked for to a tune of a lot of money. michael cohen has been raided by the fbi. he is awaiting his fate one way or another. another associate of roger stone, an associate of his is going to testify on friday. and the president himself has his lawyers back and forth attempting to avoid a sit-down interview with the prosecutors. and when is the last time such a vortex of alleged and confirmed criminal activity spun around the united states presidency? watergate and i remember it. the tentacles are spreading and here it is the same thing. and it was very sad. disturbing the fact the president on the one hand, kind
of a flim flam, oh, i want to talk to the special prosecutor, and talk to robert mueller, but kind of being a wimp. we get this blow by blow. he is never going to go before mueller to talk. the president is a liar, systematic. very dangerous for him to go forward. told so many different stories about so many different things. and what it does is reminds me of watergate and we are getting to a very close intense time for him.
because they think i think giuliani that if the president doesn t come forward and testify, that mueller is going to give up. the subpoena is what triggered the downfall of richard nixon. i don t know how the president can claim that he is innocent, if there is a subpoena, and refuse to come forward. what is he hiding. why is he hiding? we have a president of the united states who is accused of obstructing justice. not formally increased. but many people think he is involved with obstructing justice. and why don t he clear this up and come and talk to the special prosecute er. refusal to do that is some indication that he has a lot to hide. and that is what happened in
watergate. nixon kept saying i am innocent. but ultimately, american people saw that when he didn t want to turn over the case, it was because it was incriminating evidence on the tape. it is because he has got something serious if not criminal to hide. do you think ultimately that you think they are trying to play out the string, that they hope mueller will give up. the president wants to testify or talk to mueller but his lawyers are afraid. he is the president of the united states and he can t make a decision. a president who can t be trusted to tell the truth under oath? pretty serious.
seen a version of this show before. sadly. thank for joining us. with me now, is chuck rosenberg former senior official. what do you make of the back and forth negotiation that is happening between the president s team and the mueller s team over this interview. elizabeth stated it well. the president keeps saying he wants to sit down and mueller and has nothing to hide. if you want to talk to mueller, talk to mueller. nothing to hide, hide nothing. i don t know if it is a back and forth. because mueller has not been commenting on it.
only seeing one side of this back and forth. in the end if bob mueller has permission to issue a subpoena, and he has the evidence, that is what he will do. chris collins announcing. and these are places where the rules of law gets tested. indict a sitting member of congress, first endorsing for the president of the united states. in that respect it seems like it is a passing grade for the rule of law. this was able to happen. this idea that they don t want to do anything within 90 days of the election. and that guided the timing today and i am curious your perspective of that. there is a general rule. unwritten. general rule that you don t take action that will interfere with an election.
and some people think of it as 30 days, some 60 days. the southern district action today is well before that deadline however we characterize it. and with respect to your comment about the rule of law, without talking to mr. comments or this indictment, there is a public corruption section at the fbi. prosecutors all over the country who handle public corruption cases. we have been doing this for years. democrats, republicans, local, state, federal, years. so i don t see anything unusual about this. the rule of law didn t pass just today, it passes all the time.
what do you make of the timing of manafort trial which i think is going to be a harder, obviously, that is out of the hands of the special counsel because he has chosen two different trials and going to try to wrap up the prosecution case by this week. and that is going to spill over closer to the election. mr. manafort s second trial if he doesn t plead guilty or go away in other fashion, it is he was indicted well in advance of the election. well within the parameters, the guidelines. so here, the timing is not of the government s choosing. at least not of the prosecutor s choosing. thank you for sharing that insight. julia ainsley is here with
the latest. what was it like in the court room today? interesting. my colleague ken dilanian was there and he was saying the government was knocking it out of the park. today the defense did an entertaining cross examination, and they left this bombshell that lingered. they said to gates did you tell the special counsel that you had four and of course that did a lot to damage rick gates credibility which is a big goal of the defense of the case. i shared an elevator with manafort s lawyer and we were asking him how he thought the day went and seemed confident and made a joke on how the end of the day ended up on a lot of people could get sleepy.
he said i am happy you said that, at least, my part of the show was entertaining. to him, it was a compliment. more entertaining part of the day. because then we got into taxes and charts and back and forth. and showed mueller s style of being a tedious investigator and thorough. did seem to kind of start putting a lull over the court room as we went back over transactions that we heard over the previous days. this is going back through them with the forensic accountant. what has the prosecution said about their timeline? they said they want eight more witnesses to come.
but think they could wrap by the end of the week and then hear from the defense and then have closing arguments which is what the judge has said. he said he expected about three weeks sometimes chris, the judge is pushing this case to go quickly, we almost waste time talking about how much time the prosecution could use. today we took 30 minutes talking about how much time they would spend on one witness. definitely pushing this forward but a fair criticism to say sometimes he may be putting his hand on the scale more than we hoped a judge would in a case like this. he seems quite active in how much he is managing this. he is. and for people who have covered judge ellis before, he pushes things quickly.
and generally someone who is critical of defense. today from what i saw, seemed more critical of the prosecution. he questioned everyone they brought up. often interrupt their questioning. he himself would ask the question directly to the witness until it got an answer that might not have been what the prosecution was going for. yesterday he accused one of robert mueller s lawyers of having tears in his eyes. and he has been hard on the prosecution. sometimes it is a little hard to watch, actually. nbc s julia ainsley, watches so we don t have to. thank you. still ahead, mind blowing reporting about the three mar-a-lago members, a dr., a lawyer and a ceo of marvel who have been running the department of veteran s affairs. plus seth meyers is here. right here at this desk in just two minutes. don t go anywhere.
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end endless cascade. hard to manage it all. one place doing an amazing job is late night with seth meyers and a closer look one of the best bits of political commentary. that is the president s deputy campaign manager saying yes, i committed crimes. republicans what more do you need before you start taking it seriously. trump can show up to a rally in a black mask with a bag of cash and republicans would be saying, maybe he just went skiing. i mean, for television, this great bit of you take news and headlines and jokes and put them together and how does that come together? because as a fellow television person, it seems like a hard time.
we have a guy who has a comedy background and a news background so rare hybrid of somebody who can sit down and piece together what we think is going to be the story that we want to talk about when taping rolls around. we have a guy who has a comedy background and a news background so rare hybrid of somebody who can sit down and piece together what we think is going to be the story that we want to talk about when taping rolls around. he has done an exceptional job of giving us the first draft and we can add jokes. today is another perfect of example of the chris collins thing. this sounds like chris collins was on the white house lawn and caught on camera.
if you list 100 people, surely the indictment would be one of the corrupt people we have met so far. and then they keep adding characters to a drama that needing to be subtracting character. i am not a financial expert and when you hear there is an indictment and the security exchange people are involved, today was so crazy because when they took out the flowchart of how it happened it was the easiest to follow flowchart. it was two rows. the flowchart they show kids to teach them how flowchart works. that is the other part of
this is, when we watch people in this orbit commit crimes, it has not been incredibly sneaky stuff. it has been in broad daylight activity. never that scene from a movie where the detective has yarn going a hundred deferent ways. it is just one piece of yarn. and you get rick gates on the stand, that was an amazing moment. we did crimes together. there is something really sweet about saying it that way. bonnie and clyde, that could have been the poster, they did crimes together. there is this question like we saw with scott pruitt. it is the case that the newest thing will wash-out the old thing.
right. and that is why we started a companion piece to a closer look. we have a check in which is once a week, to say, while this has been happening, here is what betsy devos has been doing. or what scott pruitt s replacement doing. it is crazy how much oxygen is taken up with breaking news every day how did you find your way to the audience, this cultural moment, people want to talk about politics. yeah. it is remarkable. did you know that going into this? did you find this? how did you discover that fact? i think we all discovered it the same way. from my time at snl, especially
a presidential election where there is no incumbent. you have big fields on both sides, fun things to write about. so that started for all of us. and you know, that was the carnival that we all thought would eventually leave town like carnivals do. we learn during the campaign how to get ready for this. there is a seriousness to it too. that is the challenge that you guys have. writing jokes about family separation. you try to button it. and you want to have an arc and a thesis and as many jokes as possible and we do it in front of a test audience. we can t find any purchase
comedically we try to let go of it. hopefully we make a point this matters. you have a test audience. we just gather up people from the building, we fully go down to nbc experience store and say do you want to see a rehearsal. and we get 40 people. a lot of people are tourists. most of those people were from norway. for some reason it was not scanning. here is the question i have. it always feels like it is getter more intense. i have this signal with the staff, banning adverbs. do you have that feeling that we are hurdling towards something?
i don t know. like you say, that has also been this feeling from the beginning of hurdling. we did a closer look about him fudging the facts on the carrier air-conditioning. that was a thing that seemed like a real thing. right. at that point it was like you don t just lie like that in public. him lying about heating and cooling companies that was the dream. the show has been fantastic. thanks. doing great work. shout out. we like the chris hayes tree. thanks for coming by. make sure to catch late night with seth meyers, 12:35 eastern on nbc.
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those three young ladies were teaching the whole school about energy efficiency. we actually saved $50,000. and that s just one school, two semesters, three girls. together, we re building a better california. we re having a mate meeting tonight at what we call the southern white house. all about the va. okay. so that what you just saw was this really weird moment from back in 2017, we played it in the show. donald trump talking to his then
veteran s affairs secretary asking him if he, david shulkin plans to be about a meeting at mar-a-lago all about the va. of them elected. none of them were veterans, none of them elected. and none of them confirmed. yet because they are friends there is ike perlmutter. bruce moskowitz and wealthy attorney marc sherman. none of them were veterans, none of them elected. and none of them confirmed. yet because they are friends with trump, and pay dues to his private club, they have been allowed to run the department. take us through the details of this absolutely insane example i am joined by isaac. this is one of the nuttiest stories of the trump era i have read. how involved really are these three gentlemen in overseeing the va? they are involved with plans to be about a meeting at
mar-a-lago all about the va. so the va secretary wasn t even going to the meeting at mar-a-lago about the va. it seemed odd to me. except it won t. we now know about the true rulers of the va. there is ike perlmutter. bruce moskowitz and wealthy attorney marc sherman. none of them were veterans, none of them elected. and none of them confirmed. yet because they are friends with trump, and pay dues to his private club, they have been allowed to run the department. take us through the details of this absolutely insane example i am joined by isaac. this is one of the nuttiest stories of the trump era i have read. how involved really are these three gentlemen in overseeing the va? they are involved with everything. they speak with va officials every day on the phone. they have a hand in all manner of policy and personnel decisions that have been coming out of the va for the past year and a half. every day?
as often as every day or multiple times a day. this is like how everything about the policy for the largest health care system in the united states. yeah. this is like how much health care for veterans should be provided by the government run va system versus how much should be done by private doctors. what should the va do to modernize. and these guys were all over it. who should be the leadership of the va be. and the people who didn t get along with the mar-a-lago crowd got passed over or pushed out. basically running personnel. like a board of a company. and these are employees, they have to answer to them and if they don t like them, they are kaput. like board of directors pounding a ceo.
board of directors, these members of corporate board usually have some kind of expertise or knowledge or insight that they are providing, experienced business people. but these guys don t have relevant experience for veteran s health care. so all of these officials at the va are scratching their heads wondering who are these guys. and the answer is they have the president s ear. this doesn t happen. this isn t a thing that happens where president s come into power and they just say hey, i got buddies or members of my club who pay me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. they are going to go with you and whip you into shape. listen to what they say. that is not a thing that normally happens. there is this statute from the 1970s, you have to have cost control, and oversight and transparency.
and they weren t interested in any of that. the only reason that anyone outside a few officials from the va who dealt with this, the only one who knows about this is this reporting. this event, some charity event. and they rang the bell. it was at the new york stock exchange. and a few people over is captain america. and this was supposed to be a public service event for veteran s day but marvel ended up getting roped into it. and the va new it was an ethical area. because they asked their attorney.
they were aware that there was something up with this. you got, you did reporting and got a ton of foia documents. this is an incredibly important agency of the government doing a complicated thing. providing care to 9 million people in this system. one of the most difficult bureaucratic problems that exist in the federal government. was this an open secret in the va that these three dudes down in palm beach were running the thing. no. only a few officials knew about them. some had heard rumors. some advocates in town had heard rumors. lawmakers had no idea. senator hor ronno was on cnn earlier today and asked her if she knew about this and she said
no. just good old fashion shoe leather. and you did amazing work here. one of the best stories of the trump administration so far. thank you. thank you, chris. why last night s election should have republicans worried. coming up, plus tonight s thing one, thing two, starts next.
thing one tonight when net neutrality which is the idea that internet service provider should treat all data equally was under threat. john oliver made a stand to preserve it. we need it to get out there and for once in your lives focus your rage if a useful direction. seize your moments interacted reacted and crashed the fcc s website. in 2017 enter donald trump. so john oliver summoned internet commenter to take action. you cannot say you are too busy when 540 of you commented on beyonce s baby announcement. seven of whom gave it a one star review.
the fcc site crashed and stopped accepting any comments. would they really lie about something like that? oh, yeah, they would and they did. and that s thing two in 60 seconds.
advice provides or not provided by the fbi to the fcc after the incident. fcc chairman is placing full blame on subordinates. not surprising from a guy who behaves like this.
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we have a bunch of questions. election in ohio 12 is still too close to call. while republican, troy balderson has a slight lead over democrat o connor, it was a district donald trump won two years ago, it s been in republican hands since 1982. it s not the only bad har ambinder as the midterms approach. kathy rogers nearly lost a free-for-all by lisa brown by 200 votes and as a result, they will move to the general election. in missouri, a right to work law got shellacked by a 2-1 margin and victory for labor unions. in the primary this year, democratic candidates for governor the winner in last
night s gubernatorial primary, gretchen, one of a record number nominated last year. 90 days away from midterm elections, christina greer, betsy wood roof from the daily beast and dave wasserman, u.s. house editor and wbr id= wbr31390 /> contributor. nor something extremely in the weeds of the data here, what is your take of last night and how it aligns what we know so far where things are? it aligns where we know. democrats are the favorites for control of the house. they re seeing record enthusiasm among their voters for a midterm where republicans are. there s a rural divide on display not only house 12 where a democrat came within a point /b>
of winning in a district more republican than 68 other districts held by other republicans in the house and spokane, washington, the number 4 ranking leader on the republican side was only a hair ahead of her democratic opponent in the top two wbr-id= wbr31990 /> primary. this bodes well for the democrat changes in the house with the caveat the senate is a very different landscape. we talked about dave has been telling us so far in 2018 house primaries featuring one man one woman known incumbent on the ballot, a woman has won 69% of the time and house gop side, 64%. women are powering democratic enthusiasm as candidates and volunteers in every way. quality women are powering this new revolution, if you will. we also have to remember, one, we have russia to be concerned
with. we have made stride, that s been great. remember, immigration, gentrification, the landscape of these districts is changing and candidates are changing and women are using their economic power and political tithing, i think a lot more women are investing in women. men are used to investing in men. lots more women are waking up, i should run, no qualification, i should run. men and there are things you have to consider when you run. finance is one of them. i m thinking what the complexion of the democratic caucus should be whether or not it takes the house. i think how the tea party wave and house freedom caucus changed what that caucus was starting in 2010. you already have alexandria cortez, last night, talib won
the primary in john conyer s district, would be the first muslim woman in congress and democratic socialist. and incredible candidate named shareece davids, and out native woman a former fighter. if these are women making up the democratic caucus, it will change what the caucus is like. reporter: right. comparatively speaking it s striking. the house democratic caucus is way way more diverse than the republican conference, night and day difference. especially for reporters covering capitol hill, having conversations in the hallways of the capitol building it is very much pronounced. you can see the extent democratic voters are likely to support people of color than republican voters are in terms of the way their representation in congress elects. the other piece of this conversation important we
haven t gotten to is the question of money. this is where you can track the enthusiasm voters have for the candidates that are running. one number really important is the number 56, the number of democratic challengers so far have outraised the republican nibts they re running against. that s a number that really scares republicans in congress and the leadership fund an outside group fueling last ditched republican survival stories, a group backed by paul ryan. their spokesman put out a statement today saying republicans need to get their acts together and need to start actually raising more money than democrats. it s a problem dogging these people on the right. you see a lot of stories about after the primary upset of cortez. there s a bunch of stories about democrats are going so far left, they re going to nominate candidates that can t win. i don t think that s been the
case, you look at talib, she will be the next member of congress, they re so democratic. in in other words getting a diverse group of candidates that seem solidly in line with the district. chris, the mistake a lot of pundits make is to view politics on a left-right spectrum. i would argue candidates biographies and districts they re running in mat ears lot more whether someone was a bernie-crat or clinton-crat in 2016. they have to be sure not to get wrapped up in this. there is still the angry college student. voters still want to know what are you going to do for me and want to see candidates focused on pocketbook issues and how to improve the economy and
healthcare situation. democrats have to stick to that message, not just pronounce they will be the first. i will push back for a quick second. identity politics is explained when we have women and people of color and candidates that aren t white men. the problem is they have been practicing identity politics of white men that have left the party they re trying to get back. what many local elections are doing is saying, let s focus on the talent we have and not democrat versus republican. voter versus nonvoter and people not registered and knock on their doors and get them inspired to vote for someone talking about their issues. to betsy s point there is a gap between the representational class and who democratic voters are. you noticed the difference in diversity. it is still true the democratic caucus is more male and more white than the draerk party is, right? that s true.
it isn t representational of those supporting the caucus. when you speak to lawmakers about the issue of the day is, if you re speaking to a lawmaker of color, they are probably, not always, probably ha democrat, something that makes republicans uncomfortable to talk about and they try to focus and spend money on candidates of color or republicans, particularly the republican nominee in michigan to run against debbie stabenow, an african-american man. speaking broadly, the party is overwhelmingly more diverse than the gop is and this fall it will only increase that. i will be very interesting to see how it shakes out. thank you for your time. that is all for this evening. tonight, eight months into negotiations, the trump legal team tells mueller no questions on obstruction. in fact, rudy giuliani is asking that the whole thing be wrapped up by september 1st. just three weeks after

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supreme court. harris: i bring in my first guess this talk to the president during a golf game. south carolina senator lindsey graham is with us now, member of the senate judiciary committee. great to see you tonight. thank you. and so the president brings us up on the golf course. how does that happen and what did you tell him? he thinks this is a witch hunt and he didn t do anything wrong. mr. president i ve seen new evidence in collusion. why do you think we didn t collude with the russians. we got to be patient and run its course, and we want to make sure he s treated fairly. i don t blame him for being frustrated. this has been going on for a very long time. harris: i know i ve heard you say that it was about 20 or so time that he said that.
i was joking. you don t want to hand losses to republicans, how would that go? if we shut down the mueller investigation publicly it would be the only thing that anyone talked about. that would just let this thing go. if he doesn t issue a report soon, i ve looked at this thing pretty close, zero evidence of collusion between the trump campaign, president trump and the russians. collusion and meddling are two different things and we will see what happens.
that s handing off now, the response if you will and they are handing off their list. we talked about that and the president again is frustrated with the investigation going to long. he thinks he did nothing wrong. he makes a good point. look at what they did with the clinton email investigation. the fbi agent in charge of the clinton email investigation heated trump white clinton, nothing happened. the fisa warrant came from a document prepared by somebody on the democratic party s payroll and he feels like there is a double standard here. one of the things that we didn t talk about, apparently about five years ago the fbi told dianne feinstein that one of her employees may be an agent of the chinese government and that was the right thing to do. and she fired him. we are going to send a letter to director ray next week and ask him, what is the policy?
why didn t you tell president trump that you had concerns about carter page? is there a double standard here? if this is a counterintelligence investigation or criminal investigation, the fbi should have told president trump that they had concerns about papadopoulos and paige. why didn t they do for trump what they did for feinstein? harris: let me step back for a second to dianne feinstein, the senator was made aware and she went on ahead and then fired the spy. now you re sending a letter to christopher wray. are you feeling like that needs more investigation right now? what do you want him to do exactly and do we need to step back even further and take a look at anybody else? i m saying, what s going on with the fbi? why do you tell a democrat when they hire somebody connected to china, it could happen to anyone s office. when the fbi finds out that somebody is working for us and may have connections to a foreign government, they should
tell us and dianne feinstein acted responsibly. when it comes to the trump campaign, why didn t they tell us about papadopoulos or carter page? and at the end of the day, what has carter page done wrong? when i said stop back, paul manafort is on trial right now. that s what i mean, how far back do we need to go. here s the point, a counterintelligence investigation is designed to protect american institutions from infiltration. the right thing for the fbi to do is if they find somebody working for a political campaign or bank or any part of the government is to inform the people in charge that this person in charge that you hired has unsavory connections. that s what they did for feinstein. why did they not do that when it came to manafort, gates and papadopoulos? if they did have a confidential informant, what did the
informant learn about the trump campaign in russia, apparently nothing. that seems like a couple of names that needed to be added. as you just said, i want to talk about iran. i read a statement from you today and it s one of those things where, would it have made a difference a few years ago if the iranian citizens had somebody to advocate where you did in the statement. you feel very strongly that this is the time again to support any kind of revolution that might pop. what s happening and why? president trump, if you are listening, this is a murderous regime that will not allow iran to be a peaceful of the member of the family of nations. the ayatollah is the religious. he wants to purify islam and
destroy israel and come after us. world peace and the ayatollah cannot fit into the same sentence. this is disgraceful that you are picking this regime over the people. that you want to do business with this man who dismembered the mideast and has destroyed the state of israel and is the largest state-sponsored. european businesses are going to pick our economy over iran and it s not if the regime falls but a matter of why and if we keep the pressure on. i think it s working. the president of iran said he wanted to see if we could be sincere, if we were interested in getting another deal. before i let you go, when you play golf with the president do you let him win? i try my best to beat him, i just can t. for me to beat him he has to beat 80 and i have to shoot 80 which is hard. but he s a gracious host and he has lots of fun and he s doing a
good job. any deal with iran that they would honor it is probably not worth having. i just want to thank president trump for resetting our foreign policy leading from the front, taking on dictators and thugs like the ayatollah. we will bring about regime change without firing a shot. senator lindsey graham, thank you very much. great to have you from the great state of south carolina tonight. take care. and that there is breaking news tonight. at any moment we expect to hear from republican chris collins. we are told he will hold a news conference following that indictment of insider trading charges that broke earlier today. and as we roll along in prime time several big tuesday races still too close to call. but there is one clear winner in michigan. being called a future of the republican party, john james
known mike joins me next. alexandria ocasio-cortez says she is the future because america is no longer soccer moms and minivans. and at ben shapiro says he has some thoughts on that. stay put, you know he doesn t mince words. liberty. liberty we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you tech: at safelite autoglass, to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we ll be there. saving you time for what you love most. kids: whoa! kids vo: safelite repair, safelite replace the world is full of different hair. that s why pantene has the perfect conditioners for everyone. from air-light foam, to nourishing 3 minute miracle, to the moisture-infusing gold series. we give more women great hair days - every day.
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harris: to the breaking news now, that news conference from new york congressman chris collins that we are waiting room on right now, earlier today just a few hours ago we were on live on outnumbered and the news broke of insider trading charges against this congressman. his attorney at the time said he will be vindicated, he laid out a case for how this was not insider trading. but however federal prosecutors in new york also laid out their case today. this will be our first chance to hear directly from the congressman. i should mention the speaker of the house paul ryan today pulled him off and energy committee saying the courts will figure this out. in the meantime he will not be serving on that committee within the house. chris collins, congressman from new york will step up to the lectern and take you there live. also developing at this hour nearly 24 hours after the polls closed in five states, several races are still too close to
call. ohio, the special election there. republican troy balderson is claiming victory before it has become official. he holds a slim margin with just about 1750 votes between democrat denny o connor. in the race to be the next governor of kansas, chris kovach has a slim lead over sitting governor jeff collier. but one race is definitive, michigan s g.o.p. senate primary where iraq war veteran john james beat fellow challengers sandy pencil or by nine points. president trump tweeted this congratulations to the future star of the republican party, future senator john james. a big and bold victory tonight and the great state of michigan, the first of many. november can t come fast enough here now, john james, the republican nominee for senate in michigan. great to have you on the program. tell people a little bit about
what last night felt. i want to hear directly from you and now it stay down as you head down the road. last night felt absolutely incredible and it was awesome to give the glory of god and also point out the folks who got me to this point, the grassroots support that we felt from the very beginning. folks who believe that michigan is is truly a state that is the home of the american dream, the birthplace of the middle class and we are finally going to send somebody to washington who understands what it takes to grow a business. i grew my family business, but i also understand what it takes to keep america safe. your last segment with senator senator graham, it s the iranian exporting of terror and hate. i understand that personally fighting with iranian trained fighters, that actually took american lives and killed american soldiers, and that s my experience to bear in washingto
washington. we are fighting them on the ground in syria. they are going after our men and women on the ground there. let s move on and talk about you, because you have just gotten off the stage with vice president pentz. vice president pence is 100% behind me, and as 43 years as an elected official, she s got nothing done for the state of michigan. so we will continue to make sure that we tout our gains and stay on the defense. if we go on the offense of and tell everybody that we are the party of emancipation, we are the party of suffrage and we are the party of economic opportunity, separation of powers and making sure everyone
can achieve the american dream. it s been are some things to bring up particularly from an african-american candidate. we have so many problems, i understand if we want to flip back. i want to kind of leave on that line, because that s what people are thinking, politics are local. and by the way, did i get enough attention in 2016 from the other side of the political aisle? i came back from iraq because while i was over fighting, i saw pictures in our armed forces networks of areas in the places you just mentioned. they look worse in the combat zone i was flying in so i came back and helped create jobs. what we need to do is make sure that we continue to push forward the opportunity zones that just got signed, and our president moved forward. our president is at 29% approval
rating but right now african-americans are in a situation where the democratic party is ignoring them and we have a republican party that is now paying attention. i will be listening and learning before i lead and i m happy to not have a black or white message about a red, white, and blue message and make sure that i bring forward and get results that deveney debbie stabenow has not gotten. harris: red, white, and blue all the way. thank you john james. thank you. go to john james for senate.org senate.org. thank you for your support. harris: chairman of the harris poll and former presidential pollster to bill and hillary clinton, great to see you as well. thank you for being on the program tonight. the harris poll was not my own. let s talk about if we can the democratic party right now. opportunities that may be there because of a message that is
going so far west, you could see. i think right now for democrats heading into the midterms, and it s concerning the fact that democrats keep outperforming. however i will caution that with the fact that special elections are special for a reason. take for instance the arizona special election. arizona eat is not a competitive race, and, one thing that we know because we have asked seen it, its intensity on your side of the aisle. but it s confusing. who is really wearing i guess the messaging pants of the party right now, is at the far, far left and the socialist democrats or someone else? i think you have to
differentiate between the voters and kind of what you see on table, cable tv. there s no question that donald trump is in charge of the republican party, but he s not winning over swing voters. on the democratic party what we learned is socialists are not in charge of the democratic party. none of the sanders backed candidates emerge from their primaries. some of them lost quite badly. the whole socialist movement has been overplayed and ten or 20% of americans are socialists. the economy is not taking a turn and it s like that hit song, it s meeting people in the middle and i think that s what you saw him last night s primar primary. harris: you know lisa as you go forward, we are 90 days away. i you can t even count this day. is there something within the party for republicans outside of the president s mojo as he touches down and helps candidates that they can really
lean on? i m not hearing as much about the economy. it is and i think for republicans the biggest challenge they have is the fact that they have so many competitive open seats and it s these members that haven t had to run a tough race in a while, but i will also say that republicans have in fact 18 out of the nine special elections. so i think republicans have to work much harder to get their voters to turn out to vote. we ve already seen that enthusiasm is high, and they want to retake the house. so republicans have to work harder but i think if they do i it, and the candidates run good races, we may lose some seats but we may not lose the house specifically. and those particular democrats, who may leave a little bit toward a center line
or even to the right, what do you predict will happen with them? i think they will have tough races but i think most of them are beloved in their states. this is where is it always a national election or is it a local? donald trump is certainly nationalizing the election and making it about him, and he s at 45% approval but not over 50. that means the republicans, if that s their message, because after all republicans don t really have the leadership. ryan has quit, they don t have a message, there is no real republican card. and they may do better in these races localizing it. it s about people who care. harris: we look out ohio, we are waiting for this provisional and absentee ballot to come in, but those suburbs, actually the president was right
around 55% in terms of his ability to win in those areas. we will see if those translate in that race as well. too close to call as they are calling it now. and it s great to see you. up next, the socialist movement not making many waves last night and we were just talking about despite media darling alexandria ocasio-cortez flooding the airways with ideas like this. they say how will you pay for it, as though they haven t use the same ways to pay for unlimited war, to pay for a trillion dollar tax cuts and tax cut extension. harris: so i ask, and you see ben shapiro, where does socialism actually work? we will talk about it, he has a whole lot to say about that. also we are waiting on that news conference, a senator charged with an indictment that was full faceted.
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is what we are waiting for to start right here. republican representative chris collins of new york, the southern district. this will be interesting that we have heard from him after insider trading charges were pressed by prosecutors in the state of new new york. his client will be vindicated, and there will be a case mounted with vigorous defense to clear his good name. they are running about 60 minutes behind, and as soon as it happens you will see it here. meanwhile, this has developed. the future of the democratic party as we head into the midterms, starting tomorrow, 89 days. new york congressional candidate and described socialist alexandria ocasio-cortez. her way forward is the right
way, she says. she has some big issues with the current outlook of her party. take a listen. we have not had a party that has been investing in its own future. so we have people who are constantly fund-raising for their own reelection. the average age of house democrat right now is 65 years old. their heyday was in the 90s when kids had further use and parents soccer moms had a furby and like to vans. harris: here s how to respond in one way, ben shapiro is editor in chief. i just had on mark penn and used to work for the clintons, this
is not the democratic party of of old. it s the new democratic socialist party and this is a wave of the future. what s really incredible about all of this is if republicans could simply make this a referendum of democratic extremism on the fact that this is not even nancy pelosi s party anymore, i think the republicans would have a much better shot in 2018 and going into the future. the fact is that she makes statements that are factually untrue, they are wild and crazy and she wants to spend $218 trillion which would require a quadrupling of the percentage of gdp. that is anything remotely resembling an interview with somebody else on the other side of the aisle. and that might be the only reason why the tough questions have not come. they have come and they have been difficult for her. the middle east foreign policy
is not my thing so on and so forth, and she struggled in some areas but i quite frankly i thought her district was here in new york. the democrats are putting her out on the main national stage and that gets complicated no matter whom month they surround her with. like bernie sanders or whoever it is. you have a direct clap back to the soccer mom line. the fact is the soccer moms aren t driving vans anymore, they are driving suvs. you don t have to have two of them, and, it s also factually untrue. the fact is that the number of mothers in american society is actually increasing over the past ten years. erasing an increasing number of women who are staying at home and i don t know why the democrats are appealing to a crowd that does not include soccer moms. and what is it, the passion versus the policy.
a guest on outnumbered overtime earlier today put it that way. that is fine and what is the policy that goes along? what socialist country that we know of where these policies have actually worked. they keep shifting the answer. they say cuba was not socialist and venezuela was not socialist, and they are ignoring of course the fact that all wealth generated in nordic countries was generated by capitalism and their social redistribution programs which have actually created massive costs. in an attempt to label them with social systems on top of those, with socialist countries as a whole. then iraq prime minister came to the country a couple years ago when he was saying the country was a socialist country, we are not a socialist country, we are a capitalist country. why do people want to hear
about democratic socialists? and most of them say that s not my party. dianne feinstein couldn t even get an endorsement. the democrats don t actually have a lot of new idea, and their hatred for the president and the fact that they need a separate agenda. that does create the need for ocasio-cortez. harris: ben shapiro looks into it and writes about it. thank you, great to see you. up next i would have never dreamed that all those coffins that were coming back had anything related to my father. harris: a dog tag identified in the remains returned to united states by north korea. hear from the family of a korean war veteran.
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we were contacted by the department of the army and, we found one dog tag and they said, it s your fathers. we are just overwhelmed, or i am, that all of these boxes that came back and out of all of these thousands of people that we are the only one that has certitude on at least, is it possible obviously my father is alive someplace and lost his dog tag? that s improbable. but we have some certitude now. harris: an emotional moment on the road to closure today. the military handed over the dog tag identified in the boxes of remains returned from north korea last week. to the family of master sergeant charles h mcdaniel. he is believed to have been killed in combat in 1950.
his sons, charles jr. and larry that you just saw were so young that they had little memory of their dad. joining me now, bill bennett, host of the bill bennett podcast, former secretary of education and now fox news contributor. great to have you on the program tonight, and eileen in your direction because you hold so much about the history you have served under many presidents and councils. what do you have to add about this moment that really teaches us the meaning of those dog tag tags? isn t it interesting, with all the things in life and all the things that matter to people that this dog tag with matter so much? and it s a touch and a substantiation of the memory of this man and you can see how overwhelmed this young man, the reporter called them young man, to have that in their hands. and then the remains coming as well.
this is an important fact about human nature, and we treasure whatever we can put in our hand and hold onto. we are spiritual people, and a touch of mortality is something we can hold in our hand when they examine these boxes and see if they are the remains of the soldiers, can mean the world to their families. even ancient times, what will happen with the body? what will you do with my remains. hector and achilles are talking about that at troy, and hector says, let s return the body, whoever wins, return the body to the others family. achilles refuses and humiliates him by humiliating the body. what s interesting here is a family of hector greaves not only for his death but the
accumulation of his body. harris: want a deep reminder by those principles that are so much ingrained in war. it bears reminding that this is such a hinge point now in history. we have an armistice in place, and this is just the end of fighting the korean war. there s so much more ground to work over to get to the point where we actually call it peace and in part of that process, it is what you say, and this is just the beginning of this journey. our other journey as a marine is to leave no man behind it. in some cases it s necessary to leave a man behind but something of that man is returned. and i have to say what that means, that gift back, that
recovery back mean so much. people are then able to have something tangible, by means with which they can remember. it s a very solemn thing and it reminds us in our celebration of something, what a serious and spiritual people we are. we hold these things to be of great value. i hope everyone can appreciate what this means. it is as a wonderful line of poetry, virgil says, hereto, things mortal touch the mind and there are tears for passing things. hereto, the honorable finds its due. and something like that is going to the minds of people as they gather and wait to receive this. our thoughts are with them. harris: and all the families that are waiting for some sort of answers in this journey toward closers as well. there were 55 boxes of remains
and i had the head forensic scientists of the pentagon explained to me, we don t even know if those are separate remains or if someone goes together, but there is a long road of thousands of additional possibilities for remains to come back and answer those questions about closures for family. but for now you have given us a lot to think about in terms of history and that informs us of how to be in the future. war is part of life unfortunately and you make it it has extra meeting tonight for those remains coming back from the korean war. so thank you, bill bennett, for your time. shakespeare says the valiant die only once in the coward dies many times. we celebrate the valiant. thank you. the great dr. bill bennett was so much deep into the ocean knowledge there. now we turn to breaking news. we are waiting and we have just gotten word that we are closer now to representative chris
collins coming to the lectern. i key is today an indictment of insider trading, what did you know and who did you tell about nonpublic information on a medical product? did you benefit or did anyone you know benefit? and they are talking to republican reporters for the very first time sisto started to tip. we will take you there live as it happens. plus he was the calming presence among the unrest in ferguson, missouri. captain ron johnson is now saying a whole lot about those 13 violent days, next. i grew up there and this is currently my community in my home. therefore this means a lot to me personally and we will break the cycle of violence
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johnson of the missouri highway patrol was put in charge of keeping the peace and was hailed as a hero by all sides by taking off his bulletproof vest and join the protesters at one point. captain johnson just wrote a book 13 days in ferguson detailing what he calls the most trying days and nights of his life, and he joins me now for an exclusive interview. captain johnson, thanks for being on the program. i first want to just make the point that they that darren wilson was vindicated, he was found not to have done anything legally incorrect in shooting michael brown and he has now been in seclusion with his wife and child for some time. we will get to him in a moment. you became the face that stood between the black live matters protesters and the police officers who had to do their jobs. why did you put yourself in that position? you know for me i was able to see both sides of it and i believe the middle-of-the-road was the road to travel to bring both sides together.
whatever it took to do, i was willing to do that. your family didn t want to do that, they feared for your safety. what did you tell them? i told them the day that i put on that badge there was a responsibility. i think when we get that badge would get a responsibility and that was my responsibility, to the community come up to country, to make sure that i m here for the safety of all, and that was my charge. harris: what impressed me at the time and i know you have written about this in your book, you wanted people to understand about those white police officers and that particular police force, that there were so many good people on that force. and it not to judge everyone the same way. captain johnson: that is true. i think we can t judge everyone the same way. i wanted those policemen, and we couldn t judge all those protesters the same way and that once again goes back to the middle-of-the-road. harris: you ve written this book, what do you want people to
know about the book? captain johnson: i want people to know that there were a lot of stories that were on the streets of ferguson, on both sides. lots to hear and a lot of courage that was shown. we have to make sure that we understand each other, can relate to each other, but also about faith. i think faith played a big role for me and a big role for a lot of the protesters and a law enforcement that was out there. harris: all right, i have to let you go, we have some breaking news. thank you captain ron johnson. this is congressman chris collins of new york, we were watching a news conference following an indictment of insider trading charges from earlier today. the congressman now, let s watch together. it started for me when i borrowed and started scraping together every dollar i could to buy the westinghouse gear division here in buffalo and move it to niagara falls under a new name.
i m proud that we put hundreds of people to work that are still working there today. after selling it, i ran for congress in 1998 in the niagara falls area knowing that my business experience would benefit the citizens of new york and offer a new perspective in congress. after being humbled in that race, i spent the next ten years as an entrepreneur, investing and helping to stabilize dozens of bankrupt and financially distressed companies, saving and creating hundreds of jobs here in western new york. in 2007, i was recruited to run for erie county executive, to turn around of the effective bankrupt county. i was elected, and by applying the principles of lean six sigma, turned around the county finances in 18 short months.
all the while honoring my campaign pledge to work for $1 a month. one of the many companies i invested in was a small drug development company, innate immuno therapeutics, which was working on a unique cure for hiv patients suffering with aids. ultimately come up that focus shifted to a treatment for secondary progressive multiple sclerosis, which is one of the deadliest autoimmune diseases known to mankind. my affiliation with this company is why we are here today. i have been an avid and unwavering supporter of innate immuno therapeutics for more than 15 years, long before i came to congress or was elected county executives here in erie county. over this time, my affiliation has prompted a tax on me, my integrity and by investments by
political opponents. i believed in the company and i still do, and in the potential of a drug that had a real possibility of improving the treatment option for secondary progressive multiple sclerosis patients. and that s about the most debilitating disease known to mankind and something that i saw firsthand effect a close family member. over the years i invested heavily in innate, became the company s largest shareholder and an uncompensated member of its board of directors. without my investments instead biased financial support, the company would have gone under, bringing with it a premature end into a drug that i truly thought would revolutionize treatment options for secondary progressive ms. of all the things i wanted to accomplish in my life, finding a cure for secondary progressive ms was at the top of the list. after years of blood, sweat and tears, we firmly believed we
were on the verge of a medical breakthrough. sadly, despite showing great initial promise, the drug was ultimately shown to be unsuccessful, which is a setback for all those suffering from this deadly disease. many have speculated about my relationship with innate. here are the simple facts. my connections with the company are well-known. i believe i acted properly and within the law at all times with regard to my affiliation with innate. throughout my tenure in congress, i have followed all rules and all ethical guidelines when it comes to my personal investments, including those with innate. when it became clear that the drug that i and others believed and fell short of our hopes and expectations, i held onto my shares rather than sell them. as a result, the significant investment i made in the company worth millions of dollars were wiped out. that s okay.
that s the risk i took. my real concerns lie with the millions of people suffering with secondary progressive ms who to this day struggle without life-saving i ve said it before, and i ll say it again. i am proud of my affiliation with innate. i may have lost most of my money, but i have been blessed with a chance to bring relief to those who have had the disease of secondary progressive ms every day. the charges that have been levied against me are meritless, and i will mount a vigorous defense in court to clear my name. i look forward to being fully vindicated and exonerated, ending any and all questions relating to my affiliation with innate. i have spent the last ten years in public service as a member of congress. i have also spent many years

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manafort would send me a list of wire requests. gates admit that had he used information provided by manafort to create invoices for fake amounts of money but the money never went to the vendors, instead it went to the banks. the purpose of this, according to gates, so that the wire transfers would not be recorded on u.s. business records. nonetheless, prosecutors elicited testimony from mr. gates and from one of mr. manafort s accountants that tied manafort more closely to russia. the accountant testified that in 2006 mr. manafort received a $10 million loan from a russian oligarch close to president vladimir putin. she said she saw no evidence the loan was ever repaid. the cross-examination today getting very personal at times. gates forced to admit that more than a decade ago he had an
affair, that he financed this affair first class travel to london and an apartment in london but he insisted he did not use stolen money to finance the affair. the defense attorney pressing him to know about this secret life as the defense attorney described it, whether his wife knew about it. gates said he did and throughout wolf gates saying that now, he is doing his best to take responsibility for all these things, that in a sense in essence is his argument to the jury as to why he should be believed now as the accounts what he says are paul manafort s alleged crime. jim sciutto, thanks so much for that report. president trump meanwhile is hosting a group of ceos at his new jersey golf club later tonight while his lawyers weigh whether he should talk to the special counsel robert mueller. let s go to our chief white house correspondent jim acosta, he s in new jersey for us. the washington post now reporting that giuliani s lawyer is reluctant to let the president be questioned about obstruction of justice.
reporter: that s right, wolf. a lot of concerns insides the president s legal team as to what questions could be asked. the president is expected to draegs those ceos at that dinner at his golf club within the next hour or so. that event has just been opened up to the cameras so we may get to see a bit of what the president has to say. we can expect him to talk up the economy, of course. wolf, he s not been talking to reporters as he s been holed up in his golf course in new jersey. the president, though, is tweeting his support to some of his favorite candidates on the ballot today. an early test on whether he ll help or hurt the republicans in upcoming midterms. as president trump is taking shelter inside his new jersey golf course away from the president, an unmakeable president from the man overseeing the russian investigation, rod rosenstein, who told a group of law enforcement officials their job is to uphold the law regardless
of politics. it s our duty to enforce the laws and follow the facts wherever they may lead and we need to ensure that our decisions are never influenced by political considerations. reporter: the president s legal team says it s nearing a decision on whether president trump will sit down with robert mueller. senator lindsey graham who just played golf with the president advised him to ride out the probe. did trump ask that question? he must ve mentioned that about 20 times. i want to win in november. if we stop the mueller probe tomorrow, you wouldn t be able to talk about anything else. i would basically say, mr. president, we re not going to let you anywhere near robert mueller. he knows a lot more about this this case, he s interviewed a lot more witnesses reporter: a conservative judge was hardly reading from white house talking points when he suggested donald trump jr. esmeeting with the russians in 2016 could amount to a criminal conspiracy. a meeting the president admits
was aimed at obtaining dirt on hillary clinton. there are federal statutes that prohibit receiving something of value from a foreign national, foreign entity or foreign government, so was the purpose of this meeting to receive something of value? that s something robert mueller will have to look at. laura ingraham tried to ask don jr. about the meeting the call was cut off. do you want any comments on that, donnie? they re hitting you on that for contradictions, they re calling it worse than contradictions. hello? what is your reaction to all that? we ll see if we can reconnect with donald trump jr. on this because we can t seem to hear him. he was back on the line to say his russian encounter didn t amount to much. 20 minutes meeting, it ended up being about essentially nothing that was relevant to any of these things and that s all it is and that s all they ve got. reporter: if that s the case, other trump allies argue there is no need to worry.
what has them riled up is they feel cornered and it s not clear to me they re necessarily cornered as much as there s a fact finding expedition. reporter: the president has turned his attention to special elections across the country, from kansas where a fellow hard liner on immigration is running for governor to ohio where the gop candidate appears vulnerable in a district mr. trump himself won by 11 points. we must elect more republicans and we must elect troy balderson. we have to elect troy. so get your friends, get your neighbors, get your family and get out and vote for troy on tuesday. reporter: democrats smell an upset so former vice president joe biden has entered the fray with a last minute robo-call. electing danny to congress puts us one step closer to taking back the house and making sure we have leaders in washington who will fight for our values, ohio values.
reporter: now some disappointing results for the president on this election night could begin to change the calculus in washington that mr. trump s negatives are weighing down their chances of gaining control. that could be magnified further if the mueller probe moves closer to the white house. the president seems to be sounding out people as he talks to them over at his golf course about what he should do about the mueller investigation. it ll be interesting to see if he does indeed do more of that later on this evening when he meets with those ceos at his golf course, wolf? thank you. let s get some more on all of this. jerry nadler of new york is joining us. he s the top democrat, the ranking member of the house judiciary committee. thank you so much for joining us. thank you. do you believe robert mueller should agree to an interview with the president without questions, specific questions, being asked about obstruction of justice? i think mueller should insist
on asking the president any questions that he thinks relevant to his investigation, only he knows where the investigation is leading, only he knows what the evidence he already has is and only he can make that decision and the president is duty bound to answer any questions that the special prosecutor, special counsel, may ask. the president could drag this all out past the midterm elections in november, there s a good chance that democrats, they could win back the majority in the house of representatives which would make you the chairman of the house judiciary committee. as chairman, what actions would you take if the president refuses to comply with mueller s request for an interview? if the president refuses to comply with mueller s request for an interview, i would presume mueller would issue a subpoena. there s well defined case law from the nixon case that paula jones case with clinton that he would get the subpoena and he would answer. now, it s beyond imagination that the president would defy a
subpoena from the court. he could appeal it, but if the court makes a final decision then he must comply with the subpoena. he would have to. that could go all the way to the supreme court for a decision, right? it could, although i think it s a fairly open and shut case that would go very rapidly, i would think. your colleague told me yesterday he fears that the makeup, the current makeup of the supreme court could bode well for the president. that s speculation. it might. the fact is the nixon case was an 8-0 decision with four republican appointees, the case with bill clinton, the paula jones was pretty unanimous decision as i recall. unless the court is really changed to where it wants to be and wants to say the president s above the law, i don t see that as likely that they wouldn t grant the subpoena. some members of your party, the democratic party, they want to impeachment to be on the
at this point. we don t know a lot of the testimony, et cetera. it s certainly conceivable that cohen who is very close to the president in many ways for a long time could be a key witness. and particular, for example, as i recall, there is a statement or evidence or tape or something that cohen said that he was present, along with others, unnamed others, when the president agreed to that june 16th meeting in trump tower and that would be key testimony if that s the case. as far as we know, mueller hasn t yet interviewed michael cohen, do you think mueller needs cohen s testimony? that i don t know, because we don t know what he has already. well, let me ask you a final question while i have you. the election tonight the special election in ohio, how do you think the democrats are going to do? well, i think, you know, this is i think this is a district
that trump carried by 13 or 14 points. it s a district that s been republicans since 1982 and heavily so and the very fact that danny o connor the democratic candidate is depending on the poll 1 point up or down is extraordinary. it shows that the democrats are way overperforming and if he wins it ll be a tremendous victory. if he comes close, that will be a tremendous victory, an indication of that we re likely to carry the house. the president carried that district by 11 points, but it s been about 30 years since a democrat represented that congressional district. if we if the democratic candidate comes close or wins, that shows a massive shift in the republican district toward the democrats and it would be right in line with what we ve seen in other special elections some of which we ve lost, but in all of which we ve way overperformed in prior years and if we do that with the same percentages in november, we ll
win a great victory. let s see what happens. the polls close at 7:30 p.m. eastern in ohio. thank you for joining us. thank you. we ll have more on the possible trump/mueller interview if negotiations were to fall apart, though, could it wind up before the supreme court? we ll have more on the president s former lawyer and fixer, the wall street journal now reporting that michael cohen is being investigated for tax fraud. to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we ll be there. saving you time for what you love most. kids: whoa! kids vo: safelite repair, safelite replace
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lawyer rudy giuliani is reluctant to allow questions about obstruction of justice should the president be interviewed by the special counsel robert mueller. the president s legal team says it will have a decision on a possible interview soon. let s get some more from lisa monaco, she s the former homeland security and counterterrorism adviser to president obama. thank you very much for coming in. you re now a cnn national security analyst. if they can t ask the president questions about obstruction of justice, should there still be an interview? should mueller agree to that? what you re seeing on the president s lawyers part is some posturing about these negotiations. they ve now been going on if reports are accurate for months and what you re seeing from director mueller and his team is an effort to proceed in good faith to try and get information about the events that took place, both before and during the initial part of the president s term. so i think both sides are engaging in this. i think director mueller s
looking to do this in good faith and trying to get as full a picture and set of facts as he can. but if the interview negotiations fall apart, this could potentially, if there s a subpoena, wind up before the u.s. supreme court, what happens then? it could and that s the $50,000 question, right? there s a number of variables, one of which is the confirmation of the nominee judge brett kavanaugh to go up to the supreme court. i think, you know, congressman nadler had it right. there s pretty clear precedent here, notably with president clinton, a sitting president having to honor a subpoena. now that was in a civil case where the government s interests are actually less significant than in a criminal case. so i think what you ll see here is this play out and robert mueller and his team will proceed in good faith to try and assemble all the facts. what if the supreme court were to rule in the president s favor? i think it s too soon to speculate on that.
i think robert mueller and his team will put together certainly a report, that s what the special counsel regulations call for, then it will be up to deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, acting attorney general in this matter because of jeff sessions s recusal and it ll be up to him to determine how much of that report to make public. i want to get your thoughts on current u.s. efforts to make sure there s no russian meddling in the midterm elections coming up in november. we saw a big show of force over at the white house the other day. the president wasn t there but he authorized it. he gave the green light. is enough being done right now? look, i think that show of force last week was necessary, it was important and it was overdue. i think it s also notable, wolf, that you saw included in that assembly in the briefing room was fbi director chris wray and it is exceptionally rare for an fbi director to appear in the briefing room and to do anything in front of a podium that s
other than the department of justice or the fbi. so that was i think quite notable and it was a real show of force and it was important. is the administration doing enough? in my view, no. i think there needs to be a unified voice. the president needs to lend his voice to this to make sure that there s no schism between him and his team. there should be a cybersecurity coordinator, they should restore that position in the white house so there s somebody in the white house who is coordinating all of this, a whole of government effort. there needs to be more funding for the state to sure up their election security and systems and, frankly, there needs to be a unified view and more work and information exchanged with the social media companies. we heard the director of national intelligence dan coats say at that briefing that he wasn t in a position to, quote, understand fully what happened at the summit in helsinki between president trump and vladimir putin. shouldn t the top intelligence
officer in the u.s. government be fully aware of everything that happened during that meeting? yeah. wolf, this is a real head snapper. this the statement from dan coats last week that he did not understand, was not in a position to know what transpired in that nearly two hour meeting between president trump and our main adversary vladimir putin is really astonishing and, frankly, what it also says to me is, it was a real missed opportunity. normally what you would see is first of all, there would be other officials in that room, people who can record what s going on, who can take notes, who can feed that back to our intelligence community, to our russia analyst and incorporate that in our plans and our thinking going forward. and here we ve clearly missed that opportunity. i want to get your thoughts on the manafort trial that s under way right now in alexandria, virginia. you worked at one point in your life as a federal prosecutor. you ve also worked with robert mueller. what do you make of the
testimony of this star witness that s been there for the last couple days, rick gates, manafort s former deputy? i was the federal prosecutor as you mentioned and i have put big high stakes cooperators on the stand and that s what we re seeing now from mueller s team and these prosecutors are people who have done this before, they ve put cooperating witnesses on the stand. i think what you re seeing them do is, one, use rick gates s testimony to corroborate other evidence that s already been put in and, two, very importantly, to bring the jury inside the scheme that he, by his own admission, rick gates, has done with paul manafort and describe the crimes they committed together. a lot has been talked about about the defense now trying to sully rick gates s testimony and his credibility. as a prosecutor, i didn t care if a jury liked my cooperating witness, i only cared that they believed him and he has every
incentive to tell the truth here because he gets no benefit of any deal with the prosecutors unless he tells the complete truth. if he lies he s in deep, deep trouble. that s right. thank you very much for coming in. thanks. just ahead, federal investigators wrap up pressure on president trump s former lawyer an fixer michael cohen. what does it mean for him and for the president? plus, live update on what s now the largest fire in california history in what president trump gets wrong about the state s ongoing fire disaster.
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tonight sources are telling cnn that federal prosecutors investigating president trump s former personal attorney michael cohen have subpoenaed his former accountant and are examining financial institutions made loans to cohen. he s under investigation for tax fraud. let s dig deeper with our correspondents and analysts dana bash, what do you make of these latest legal developments? look, it goes without saying that for the federal government to get a warrant, a judge to say yes to a warrant to raid somebody s home well, or the hotel they re living right now, somebody s office and take the amount of documents and recordings that the feds did with michael cohen it means that they really had a tip that there was something bad going on.
the fact of the matter is, that cnn s reporting as you mentioned that his former accountant is being investigated and the wall street journal saying that he is being investigated for tax fraud probably shouldn t be surprising in that these are broad angles that we ve known that the feds were looking in to. i think if you take it up maybe to a higher level here, what is interesting is this reporting with the manafort/gates trial or manafort trial with gates testifying as the backdrop, it s a reminder that these are all people who probably would, now they re allegations, but if they end up getting convicted for things, maybe would have gone under the radar had they not ended up being involved with the now president of the united states who has a special counsel looking in to him. manafort, the feds were looking into him for a long time
apparently and never could get anything and now they do. i suspect there s a lot of people that will regret being involved with the president of the united states and they re paying a price for that right now. don lemon you re here in washington right now. thank you. what do you make of what s going on with michael cohen? what do you make of the pressure being put on him right now? what does it mean for him and the president? i know michael cohen and i know that it s tough on his family and him, but just think about it. it s been about 15, maybe 16 weeks since this raid on his home. michael cohen still has not been charged. he says to me that he s not guilty. but it has been 15 to 16 weeks. what this says to me when you look at both the cnn reporting and the wall street journal, the wall street journal said being investigated for possible tax fraud, right, possible tax fraud. that s a big word. i don t think we should underestimate that and discount that word, the possibility of,
but i think it means that michael cohen is a treasure trove. he s a treasure trove of information from the president. if you read into the reporting where it says that they re looking at whether the banks or people who were in charge of doing loans, whether they did everything that they were supposed to do as they were giving michael cohen loans, i don t know if that says anything i think what my assessment is, what worries the president a lot right now is not only what michael cohen knows and if he flips and were to tell all but allen weissleberg, who s been involved for 40 years, he s been subpoenaed apparently to testify before a grand jury. it all comes back to the president. they want information on the president. they figured that weissleberg and michael cohen are the two best sources for that information but i just find it interesting that michael cohen has not been charged with anything yet and it s been quite a long time. i don t know what they re holding out for. maybe something. it s been a while.
shawn turner is with us as well. what does it say to you that robert mueller handed over the whole michael cohen case from his portfolio over to the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york? you recall that the reason that the special counsel did that is because in thecourseof their investigation what robert mueller s team found was that michael cohen potentially engaged in activity that s would have been violation of law under the southern district of new york s jurisdiction. when he turned it over, that was because that was something that was outside of robert mueller s scope. for the southern district of new york, as they investigate this, if they were to find that there is evidence or information that could relate back to the special counsel scope, then it is theoretically possible that this could end up back in front of robert mueller and his team at some point down the line. that would be a significant development. michael cohen clearly is up set. he doesn t feel he was getting the backing of the president during these initial months of the investigation, that he was
effectively being mistreated. what do you think? how worried should the president be about what michael cohen might say? i think it s clear that prosecutors are trying to squeeze michael cohen with the hopes that he might flip and we ve seen increasing signs that cohen might be willing to cooperate. i think the reason this is so concerning for president trump is that for years cohen acted not just as trump s personal attorney but his self-confessed fix it guy. he has been intimately involved in overseeing both the president s personal and professional dealings and he keeps has kept a lot of the president s secrets. i think that although this is separate from the investigation to russian interference in the election, it is worth pointing out as shawn did that any documents that were seized by the fbi in that raid that are relevant to mueller s investigation could be turned back to the special counsel and if cohen were to flip and he were to cooperate, any information that he provides to the southern district of new york, the u.s. attorney s office there, that could also be shared back with robert mueller and his team and we ve seen the
president tweet about cohen certainly that his signal that he is very worried about what information he might have to offer. we ve also seen the president tweet about you, don lemon. we ll take a quick break. there are enormous implications of what s going on right now. stick around guys. you always pay your insurance on time.
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we re back with our correspondents and our analysts. don lemon, you re here in washington. the president had that disgusting tweet the other day attacking you and lebron james. just walk us through how you reacted when you saw that and what is happened since? i didn t really i don t follow the president any more on twitter because it s too much and i find his tweets to be outrageous and i find them to be most of the time beneath the dignity of the office. i think that it s tough to sit here on television now and criticize the president. i think that we have more respect for the office than he does, so i didn t really know that he tweeted about me until my phone until people started saying, are you okay? oh, my gosh. i can t believe he s doing that and my response was, what are you talking about? and then they sent me a copy of what the president said about me and so i just thought about it for a little while and woke up the next morning and tweeted out what i said. who is who s the real dummy? is it someone who puts kids in classrooms as lebron james or
someone who puts kids in cages and separates their families at the border? and i stand by that. so i think it s awful. i think its disgusting. before i think this president traffics in racism. i do believe this president is a racist. i don t say that lightly. i think the evidence points to it and i did that on my program last night on my show. what he says about people of color, what he says about women, what he says about women and other people, he does, you know he s an equal opportunity offender but he also tramples over racial norms and sensitivi sensitivities. it started with congresswoman maxine waters before you, before lebron, he was going after her,
she was very critical of him. she was going after her saying she was low iq and he would ridicule her saying her iq was in the 60s. maxine waters has been in political life a lot longer than this president and will still be around when this president is out of office, so i think to call her a low iq individual is beneath the dignity of the office. we have to remember the president is supposed to be a statesman and statesman don t speak that way or write that way they don t conduct themselves that way. it would be it is incumbent upon the president to learn from his past mistakes and to try to correct them and to become a better person and better statesman, a better leader of all people, not just the people who voted for him. its incumbent upon the people in his own party to hold him to account because it s not up to me to hold him to account. i am not a lawmaker. i m neither a democrat nor a republican. i m not political. i simply give the facts. i did an interview with lebron
james. he shared his story. i think its incumbent upon the people, especially the people in washington to hold him to account. it is up to us to hold i know to hold our elected officials to account on the facts as you mentioned on the air, i m talking about here in washington politically. i totally agree and i think the way that we can hold them to account in this particular discussion is lebron james it something and is doing something pretty remarkable that we would want all of the athletes that our children look up to to do, which is to give back to their community in a pretty amazing way, use their big fat salaries to do that and what don lemon is was bring that to the country and the world in the interview. yeah, lebron james made a statement not even using the president s specifically talking about the way that he s acting, but obviously about what the president has done with the nfl and that s his prerogative. and that s called discourse and
when you have anybody to respond to that with an attack, much less the president of the united states, it is important to call it out. go ahead. whenever the president makes comments we often spends a lot of time talking about the politics but it s also important to note that donald trump s views on race pre-date his political career. first of all, he launched his political career by questioning whether or not president obama, the first black president in the history of this country was actually born in the united states, but you think back to his time in new york in the early 70s, trump and his father, their company was sued in a racial discrimination lawsuit for a discriminating against african-american tenants. he took out the full page ad calling for the death penalty in the central park five case which, of course, those men were exonerated and yet trump continue today push the notion that they were somehow guilty and even on the campaign trail he tried to incite violence against black lives matter protesters and also suggested
that inner cities were war zones. we ve seen enough evidence to support the notion that this is not just politics, perhaps this is what the president really thinks and believes. i think don used a very important word, he talked about racial norms and how the president is trampling on racial norms. there are people who harbor these kinds of views. what s really interesting is that prior to the president coming to office, our experience was that generally speaking people kept those views to themselves and what i think i want people to know is, as people of color can walk around and live their life, we are having a different experience as a result of the president setting a very different tone with regard to this sort of rhetoric. it s just important for people to know that this new tone, this new norm is having an impact on people that is unfair to a large portion of this country. when i saw what the president said about you, i remembered some of the interviews you ve
actually done with donald trump. he s been on your show when he was a candidate earlier and i always thought that there was a mutually respectful relationship that you had with donald trump. let me go back before that. the last time i interviewed donald trump before he ran for office was the night that osama bin laden and it was before he was killed and we had a pretty we had a rou about the birther issue. it didn t get much pickup, he vowed he would never do an interview with me because he said i was racist, because i challenged him on an infactual statement that you re a racist? i was racist because the way i challenged him much in the way that i can t somehow be unbiased about an issue concerning race because i m african-american. so he accused me of being racist. finally, he decided he would do an interview with me and my
producers intervened and we talked. he said, oh, my gosh, you re really g. i really expect you and he kept doing interviews with me subsequently after that, eight or nine of them. and then once he became president of the united states and you have to hold his feet to the fire, all of a sudden he doesn t like what i m doing or when he gets something wrong or when he does something crazy or he says something crazy or tweets something that s just beyond the pale. all of a sudden he doesn t like me. during the campaign i was told that people, the only people that the campaign wanted to come on my show were the paid cnn contributors because they were afraid that the other people who were possibly going to be in the administration, work with donald trump, would be embarrassed bays challenged them in interviews. well, if you don t want to be challenged in interviews, then you need not be running for political office or to work for someone who s going to be president of the united states. that s the long and short of it.
i think he started out by calling me a racist and then what it ends up is again the conversation i ve been having on the air with chris cuomo and others is that it is complete projection. if you look at this president, whatever he says, he is projecting. it s what he believes about himself. i was happy, though, that melania trump came out with a statement in support of what lebron james is doing in akron, ohio. i think that s great that melania trump did that. i give her credit for it. i don t know if we should read too much into it because i think we have to remember she was i abirther too. we ll see you later tonight. yes. 10:00 p.m. eastern. maybe we ll get the final results in ohio and some of the other key races that we re going to be watching. cnn s special coverage throughout the night on all of that. much more news right after this. , we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we ll be there. saving you time for what you love most. kids: whoa! kids vo: safelite repair, safelite replace
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area larger than all of new york citition five boroughs put together. it s a massive amount of land but it is very, very remote, very rural. but all along when you take a look at just this fire and you look through the state, there are 17 fires that are burning. one just cropping up yesterday afternoon in orange in & riverside counties, the holy fire. this is what they re dealing with across the state. as far as this fire is concerned, you can see behind me some of that devastation. this fire here they say they have plenty of water to fight this fire despite what the president tweeted about there not being enough water resources. they say they don t know what they re talking about since the shasta lake which is a reservoir here is 2/3 and that s what they re using, wolf. stephanie, thanks very much. chief ken pimmlot is the director of cal fire and he joins us on the phone right now. thanks so much for joining us. difference an update on the progress you re making. what are the biggest challenges right now, you and the men and women you are facing? we have over 14,000 firefighters on the fire lines throughout california. that s over half of the nearly
27,000 firefighters that are fighting fires across the western united states. over 585,000 acres have burned since this siege began several weeks ago. we re certainly making progress. many of the fires we re able to bring closer to containment including the carr fire that stephanie was just talking about there earlier propp but we re a long way from being done. the challenges we re facing is certainly very high temperatures, low humidities, and these onshore coastal winds that will pick up. and as you know, there s a heat wave in southern california right now and for the next several days. are you getting the help you need from the federal government, ken? we absolutely are. the coordination that s going on every day, not just here in california but throughout the western united states, we are working very closely with all of our partners, federal, state, and local, as well interagency coordination center in boise where all the resources are coordinated for the country in terms of wildland firefighting.
we are constantly sharing and making sure we have the ability to share critical resources. the president, president trump, says the situation is being made worse because environmental laws out in california are preventing readily available water from being used to fight the wildfires. is that true? we have plenty of water, astephanie said, to fight fires. many lakes we re accessing from helicopters to drop that water on the fires and our fire engines have access to water on the ground. and water sis of course just on of the many tools we use to fight fire. we drop retardants from air tankers. we have access to all of that and are readily deploying that on all of these fires. and i know you ve been a firefighter for 30 years. is climate change making these fires worse? absolutely. the changing climate is impacting. as a career firefighter and having so many other career firefighters on the front lines, we are all seeing the change. the kinds of fires we re having right now, these 100,000,

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the close knit relatives. three people charged today. the congressman, his son, and the would-be father-in-law. a number of people in this circle. and the security and exchange commission named some of them. the would be father-in-law, would be mother-in-law, and the fiance. as individuals just saw there, congressman said he did nothing wrong and acted to ethical and legal standards at all time. and won t be taking any questions. the behavior that is outlined in this indictment if true is shockingly brazen. this is a very bedrock principle
nominees through the senate quickly enough. so it wound up the individual chief judge in the southern district pointed mr. berman permanently. and quite clear that we follow the facts regardless of politics. if there is evidence that you vi violated the law, you will be prosecuted. making frantic phone calls to his son, the allegations pretty amazing. caught on tape. thanks for joining me. i am joined by elizabeth
holtzman. this seems like a fairly clean case. i want to take a step back. we just came off the chris collins news conference. and you have in which he testified under oath about the campaign manager for the president of the united states in a tax evasion case and talked about all the crimes they did together. all of the intentional actions they took to hide information from the government to defraud banks to increase the amount of money they had access to. and confessed on the stand to stealing from the man he worked for to a tune of a lot of money. michael cohen has been raided by the fbi.
kind of being a wimp. we get this blow by blow. he is never going to go before mule toeller to talk. the president is a liar, systematic. very dangerous for him to go forward. told so many different stories about so many different things. and what it does is reminds me of watergate and we are getting to a very close intense time for him. because they think i think giuliani that if the president doesn t come forward and testify, that mueller is going to give up. the subpoena is what triggered
the downfall of richard nixon. i don t know how the president can claim that he is innocent, if there is a subpoena, and refuse to come forward. what is he hiding. why is he hiding? we have a president of the united states who is accused of obstructing justice. not formally increased. but many people think he is involved with obstructing justice. and why don t he clear this up and come and talk to the special prosecute er. refusal to do that is some indication that he has a lot to hide. and that is what happened in watergate. nixon kept saying i am innocent. but ultimately, american people saw that when he didn t want to turn over the case, it was because it was incriminating
evidence on the tape. it is because he has got something serious if not criminal to hide. do you think ultimately that you think they are trying to play out the string, that they hope mueller will give up. the president wants to testify or talk to mueller but his lawyers are afraid. he is the president of the united states and he can t make a decision. a president who can t be trusted to tell the truth under oath? pretty serious. seen a version of this show before. sadly. thank for joining us. with me now, is chuck rosenberg
former senior official. what do you make of the back and forth negotiation that is happening between the president s team and the mueller s team over this interview. elizabeth stated it well. the president keeps saying he wants to sit down and mueller and has nothing to hide. if you want to talk to mueller, talk to mueller. nothing to hide, hide nothing. i don t know if it is a back and forth. because mueller has not been commenting on it. only seeing one side of this back and forth. in the end if bob mueller has permission to issue a subpoena, and he has the evidence, that is what he will do. chris collins announcing.
and these are places where the rules of law gets tested. indict a sitting member of congress, first endorsing for the president of the united states. in that respect it seems like it is a passing grade for the rule of law. this was able to happen. this idea that they don t want to do anything within 90 days of the election. and that guided the timing today and i am curious your perspective of that. there is a general rule. unwritten. general rule that you don t take action that will interfere with an election. and some people think of it as 30 days, some 60 days. the southern district action today is well before that deadline however we characterize
it. and with respect to your comment about the rule of law, without talking to mr. comments or this indictment, there is a public corruption section at the fbi. prosecutors all over the country who handle public corruption cases. we have been doing this for years. democrats, republicans, local, state, federal, years. so i don t see anything unusual about this. the rule of law didn t pass just today, it passes all the time. what do you make of the timing of manafort trial which i think is going to be a harder, obviously, that is out of the hands of the special counsel because he has chosen two different trials and going to try to wrap up the prosecution case by this window he can aeek.
and that is going to spill over closer to the election. mr. manafort s second trial if he doesn t plead guilty or go away in other fashion, it is goi he was indicted well in advance of the election. well within the parameters, the guidelines. so here, the timing is not of the government s choosing. at least not of the prosecutor s choosing. thank you for sharing that insight. julia ainsley is here with the latest. what was it like in the court room today? interesting. my colleague ken dilanian was there and he was saying the government was knocking it out of the park. today the defense did an
entertaining cross examination, and they left this bombshell that lingered. they said to gates did you tell the special counsel that you had four and of course that did a lot to damage rick gates credibility which is a big goal of the defense of the case. i shared an elevator with manafort s lawyer and we were asking him how he thought the day went and seemed confident and made a joke on how the end of the day ended up on a lot of people could get sleepy. he said i am happy you said that, at least, my part of the show was entertaining. to him, it was a compliment. more entertaining part of the
day. because then we got into taxes and charts and back and forth. and showed mueller s style of being a tedious investigator and thorough. did seem to kind of start putting a lull over the court room as we went back over transactions that we heard over the previous days. this is going back through them with the forensic accountant. what has the prosecution said about their timeline? they said they want eight more witnesses to come. but think they could wrap by the end of the week and then hear from the defense and then have closing arguments which is what the judge has said. he said he expected about three weeks sometimes chris, the judge is pushing this case to go quickly, we almost waste time
talking about how much time the prosecution could use. today we took 30 minutes talking about how much time they would spend on one witness. definitely pushing this forward but a fair criticism to say sometimes he may be putting his hand on the scale more than we hoped a judge would in a case like this. he seems quite active in how much he is managing this. he is. and for people who have covered judge ellis before, he pushes things quickly. and generally someone who is critical of defense. today from what i saw, seemed more critical of the prosecution. he questioned everyone they brought up. often interrupt their questioning. he himself would ask the question directly to the witness until it got an answer that might not have been what the
prosecution was going for. yesterday he accused one of robert mueller s lawyers of having tears in his eyes. and he has been hard on the prosecution. sometimes it is a little hard to watch, actually. nbc s julia ainsley, watches so we don t have to. thank you. still ahead, mind blowing reporting about the three mar-a-lago members, a dr., a lawyer and a ceo of marvel who have been running the department of veteran s affairs. plus seth meyers is here. right here at this desk in just two minutes. don t go anywhere. i get unlimited 1.5% cash back. it s so simple, i don t even have to think about it. so i think about mouthfeel. i don t think about the ink card. i think about nitrogen ice cream in supermarkets all over the world. i think about the details. fine, i obsess over the details.
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one place doing an amazing job is late night with seth meyers and a closer look one of the best bits of political commentary. that is the president s deputy campaign manager saying yes, i committed crimes. republicans what more do you need before you start taking it seriously. trump can show up to a rally in a black mask with a bag of cash and republicans would be saying, maybe he just went skiing. i mean, for television, this great bit of you take news and headlines and jokes and put them together and how does that come together? because as a fellow television person, it seems like a hard
time. we have a guy who has a comedy background and a news background so rare hybrid of somebody who can sit down and piece together what we think is going to be the story that we want to talk about when taping rolls around. he has done an exceptional job of giving us the first draft and we can add jokes. today is another perfect of example of the chris collins thing. this sounds like chris collins was on the white house lawn and caught on camera. if you list 100 people,
surely the indictment would be one of the corrupt people we have met so far. and then they keep adding characters to a drama that needing to be subtracting charact character. i am not a financial expert and when you hear there is an indictment and the security exchange people are involved, today was so crazy because when they took out the flowchart of how it happened it was the easiest to follow flowchart. it was two rows. the flowchart they show kids to teach them how flowchart works. that is the other part of this is, when we watch people in this orbit commit crimes, it has not been incredibly sneaky stuff. it has been in broad daylight
activity. never that scene from a movie where the detective has yarn going a hundred deferent ways. it is just one piece of yarn. and you get rick gates on the stand, that was an amazing moment. we did crimes together. there is something really sweet about saying it that way. bonnie and collilyde, that c have been the poster, they did crimes together. there is this question like we saw with scott pruitt. it is the case that the newest thing will wash-out the old thing. right. and that is why we started a companion piece to a closer
look. we have a check in which is once a week, to say, while this has been happening, here is what betsy devos has been doing. or what scott pruitt s replacement doing. it is crazy how much oxygen is taken up with breaking news every day how did you find your way to the audience, this cultural moment, people want to talk about politics. yeah. it is remarkable. did you know that going into this? did you find this? how did you discover that fact? i think we all discovered it the same way. from my time at snl, especially a presidential election where there is no incumbent.
you have big fields on both sides, fun things to write about. so that started for all of us. and you know, that was the carnival that we all thought would eventually leave town like carnivals do. we learn during the campaign how to get ready for this. there is a seriousness to it too. that is the challenge that you guys have. writing jokes about family separation. you try to button it. and you want to have an arc and a thesis and as many jokes as possible and we do it in front of a test audience. we can t find any purchase comedically we try to let go of it.
hopefully we make a point this matters. you have a test audience. we just gather up people from the building, we fully go down to nbc experience store and say do you want to see a rehearsal. and we get 40 people. a lot of people are tourists. most of those people were from norway. for some reason it was not scanning. here is the question i have. it always feels like it is getter more intense. i have this signal with the staff, banning adverbs. do you have that feeling that we are hurdling towards something? i don t know. like you say, that has also been this feeling from the beginning
of hurdling. we did a closer look about him fudging the facts on the carrier air-conditioning. that was a thing that seemed like a real thing. right. at that point it was like you don t just lie like that in public. him lying about heating and cooling companies that was the dream. the show has been fantastic. thanks. doing great work. shout out. we like the chris hayes tree. thanks for coming by. make sure to catch late night with seth meyers, 12:35 eastern on nbc. coming up, three members of mar-a-lago working behind the scenes to basically run the va. the reporter who broke that
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plans to be about a meeting at mar-a-lago all about the va. so the va secretary wasn t even going to the meeting at mar-a-lago about the va. it seemed odd to me. except it won t. we now know about the true rulers of the va. there is ike perlmutter. bruce moskowitz and wealthy attorney marc sherman. none of them were veterans, none of them elected. and none of them confirmed. yet because they are friends with trump, and pay dues to his private club, they have been allowed to run the department.
take us through the details of this absolutely insane example i am joined by isaac. this is one of the nuttiest stories of the trump era i have read. how involved really are these three gentlemen in overseeing the va? they are involved with everything. they speak with va officials every day on the phone. they have a hand in all manner of policy and personnel decisions that have been coming out of the va for the past year and a half. every day? as often as every day or multip multiple times a day. this is like how everything about the policy for the largest health care system in the united
states. yeah. this is like how much health care for veterans should be provided by the government run va system versus how much should be done by private doctors. what should the va do to modernize. and these guys were all over it. who should be the leadership of the va be. and the people who didn t get along with the mar-a-lago crowd got passed over or pushed out. basically running personnel. like a board of a company. and these are employees, they have to answer to them and if they don t like them, they are kaput. like board of directors pounding a ceo. board of directors, these members of corporate board usually have some kind of expertise or knowledge or insight that they are providing,
experienced business people. but these guys don t have relevant experience for veteran s health care. so all of these officials at the va are scratching their heads wondering who are these guys. and the answer is they have the president s ear. this doesn t happen. this isn t a thing that happens where president s come into power and they just say hey, i got buddies or members of my club who pay me hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. they are going to go with you and whip you into shape. listen to what they say. that is not a thing that normally happens. there is this statute from the 1970s, you have to have cost control, and oversight and transparency. and they weren t interested in any of that. the only reason that anyone outside a few officials from the
va who dealt with this, the only one who knows about this is this reporting j reporting. this event, some charity event. and they rang the bell. it was at the new york stock exchange. and a few people over is captain america. and this was supposed to be a public service event for veteran s day but marvel ended up getting roped binto it. and the va new it was an ethical area. because they asked their attorney. they were aware that there was something up with this. you got, you did reporting and got a ton of foia documents. this is an incredibly important agency of the government doing a
complicated thing. providing care to 9 million people in this system. one of the most difficult bureaucratic problems that exist in the federal government. was this an open secret in the va that these three dudes down in palm beach were running the thing. no. only a few officials knew about them. some had heard rumors. some advocates in town had heard rumors. lawmakers had no idea. senator hor ronno was on cnn earlier today and asked her if she knew about this and she said no. just good old fashion shoe leather. and you did amazing work here. one of the best stories of the trump administration so far. thank you. thank you, chris. why last night s election
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close to call. while republican, troy balderson has a slight lead over democrat o connor, it was a district donald trump won two years ago, it s been in republican hands since 1982. it s not the only bad har ambinder as the midterms approach. kat kathy rogers nearly lost a free-for-all by lisa brown by 200 votes and as a result, they will move to the general election. in missouri, a right to work law got shellacked by a 2-1 margin and victory for labor unions. in the primary this year, democratic candidates for governor the winner in last
night s gubernatorial primary, gretchen, one of a record number nominated last year. 90 days away from midterm elections, christina greer, betsy wood roof from the daily beast and dave wasserman, u.s. house editor and contributor. nor something extremely in the weeds of the data here, what is your take of last night and how it aligns what we know so far where things are? it aligns where we know. democrats are the favorites for control of the house. they re seeing record enthusiasm among their voters for a midterm where republicans are. there s a rural divide on display not only house 12 where a democrat came within a point of winning in a district more republican than 68 other
districts held by other republicans in the house and spokane, washington, the number 4 ranking leader on the republican side was only a hair ahead of her democratic opponent in the top two primary. this bodes well for the democrat changes in the house with the caveat the senate is a very different landscape. we talked about dave has been telling us so far in 2018 house primaries featuring one man one woman known incumbent on the ballot, a woman has won 69% of the time and house gop side, 64%. women are powering democratic enthusiasm as candidates and volunteers in every way. quality women are powering this new revolution, if you will. we also have to remember, one, we have russia to be concerned with. we have made stride, that s been great. remember, immigration,
gentrification, the landscape of these districts is changing and candidates are changing and women are using their economic power and political tithing, i think a lot more women are investing in women. men are used to investing in men. lots more women are waking up, i should run, no qualification, i should run. men and there are things you have to consider when you run. finance is one of them. i m thinking what the complexion of the democratic caucus should be whether or not it takes the house. i think how the tea party wave and house freedom caucus changed what that caucus was starting in 2010. you already have alexandria cortez, last night, talib won the primary in john conyer s district, would be the first muslim woman in congress and
democratic socialist. and incredible candidate named shareece davids, and out native woman a former fighter. if these are women making up the democratic caucus, it will change what the caucus is like. reporter: right. comparatively speaking it s striking. the house democratic caucus is way way more diverse than the republican conference, night and day difference. especially for reporters covering capitol hill, having conversations in the hallways of the capitol building it is very much pronounced. you can see the extent democratic voters are likely to support people of color than republican voters are in terms of the way their representation in congress elects. the other piece of this conversation important we haven t gotten to is the question of money. this is where you can track the enthusiasm voters have for the candidates that are running. one number really important is
the number 56, the number of democratic challengers so far have outraised the republican nibts they re running against. that s a number that really scares republicans in congress and the leadership fund an outside group fueling last ditched republican survival stories, a group backed by paul ryan. their spokesman put out a statement today saying republicans need to get their acts together and need to start actually raising more money than democrats. it s a problem dogging these people on the right. you see a lot of stories about after the primary upset of cortez. there s a bunch of stories about democrats are going so far left, they re going to nominate candidates that can t win. i don t think that s been the case, you look at talib, she will be the next member of congress, they re so democratic. in in other words getting a
diverse group of candidates that seem solidly in line with the district. chris, the mistake a lot of pundits make is to view politics on a left-right spectrum. i would argue candidates biographies and districts they re running in mat ears lot more whether someone was a bernie-crat or clinton-crat in 2016. they have to be sure not to get wrapped up in this. there is still the angry college student. voters still want to know what are you going to do for me and want to see candidates focused on pocketbook issues and how to improve the economy and healthcare situation. democrats have to stick to that message, not just pronounce they will be the first. i will push back for a quick second. identity politics is explained when we have women and people of color and candidates that aren t white men. the problem is they have been practicing identity politics of
white men that have left the party they re trying to get back. what many local elections are doing is saying, let s focus on the talent we have and not democrat versus republican. voter versus nonvoter and people not registered and knock on their doors and get them inspired to vote for someone talking about their issues. to betsy s point there is a gap between the representational class and who democratic voters are. you noticed the difference in diversity. it is still true the democratic caucus is more male and more white than the draerk party is, right? that s true. it isn t representational of those supporting the caucus. when you speak to lawmakers about the issue of the day is, if you re speaking to a lawmaker of color, they are probably, not always, probably ha democrat, something that makes republicans
uncomfortable to talk about and they try to focus and spend money on candidates of color or republicans, particularly the republican nominee in michigan to run against debbie stabenow, an african-american man. speaking broadly, the party is overwhelmingly more diverse than the gop is and this fall it will only increase that. i will be very interesting to see how it shakes out. thank you for your time. that is all for this evening. rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, chris, much appreciate it. thanks for joining us this hour. if you wanted to hold a pageant to decide the president s favorite member of congress, i don t think any of us knows who the final winner might be. might be whether the president insisted on a swimsuit contest or something scarier. without any argument at all, i think almost all of us who paid any attention to the news in

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