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Lode star. >> that was the first time we saw mike pence break with the president. he never does in his support of jeff sessions. >> right. >> you know, i think it's interesting that omarosa was speculating. but it is just speculation. i think it also bears mentioning by the fact these are not household names. the term senior administration official can apply to a whole host of people in this administration and in previous administrations. you might imagine that if somebody at the cabinet level or senior adviser, but the journalism community, we and frankly in the administration, they use that ...

Seeing kavanaugh's hearing this week. that's not going away. >> i want to ask you something omarosa manigault newman speculated. let's listen. >> i put up some names on my tw twitter not to be koi. i suspected. i butt johnny de steph know up. and then i put up nick ayers. i put up a poll. everybody chose nick ayers. i went through some of my e-mails. i have to tell you that this op-ed is very similar to the style and the communication that comes out of his shop. >> okay. these names are not household names. interesting how he points at the vice president's office though. some think of them wit...

You repeated is in that op ed as well. and that was his remark. >> lode star referring to john mccain, is that a military term? >> yes. >> "the new york times" wrote a story with an unnamed anonymous source. "the new york times" didn't write the story. this is an op ed from someone, a senior official, "the new york times" published it. >> i think they added to it, too. >> ultimately someone else wrote it. >> yes. and not the new york times didn't write it. >> no. >> it's not a source, it's an unnamed senior official. the president tweeted this out earlier this evening, and here it is, what he ...

Of nixonian to be frank. >> didn't he prove what bob woodward is saying in his book, and what the writer of this op ed is saying? >> he did. what nixon did when he had leaks, he put wiretaps on reporters and white house staff. i wouldn't be surprised if trump would do the same. >> an educated guess, an idea of who this unnamed person is? >> kelly would be high on my list. >> you think so? >> yeah. >> why do you say that? >> the off the rails remark that you repeated is in that op ed as well. and that was his remark. >> lode star referring to john mccain, is that a military term? >> yes. >> the...

Throw in the deep state. >> it is a perfect storm for mid term elections. >> you could see it working for him. jamie, the quest to find the author of the piece, it's definitely happening inside the white house and outside of the white house. people weren't focusing on anything to figure out what this is. not in everyone's vernacular. one person used it many times we've all found is vice president mike pence. >> it seems to me, mr. speaker, that the lodestar. >> that will be a lodestar. >> must once again be our lode star. >> vigilance and resolve will be our lodestar. >> it will be our lode st...