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manager bill stepien and. >> i was demoralized because i thought he really believes the stuff and lost contact and become detached from reality. when iran into this and tell him how crazy some of these allegations were there was never an indication of interest in the actual facts. were doing our job much of the info you are getting is false. >> it's far too early to be making any calls like that. >> there was definitely intoxication but i do not know the level of intoxication when he spoke with the president. >> for the record rudy giuliani said he was false testimony from jason mill...

Howard: there's a whole lotta debate at the week's final hearing but it wound up with mike pence life and grave danger after president trump pressured his vp to block the election results based on john eastman pushing theories that he admitted were totally rejected by the supreme court. an outrage reaction from mike pence counsel greg jacobs. >> he was still pushing us to do what he had been asking us to do for the previous two days that that was certifiably crazy. >> now i'm going to give you the best legal advice or ever getting in your life get a great criminal defense lawyer. >> it started...