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And i think that s why she did so well. what do you think, waleed, about this sort of question of thinking about electability as its own thing versus thinking how you think dynamic, compelling, persuasive the candidates are as you watch them as a democratic primary voter. yeah, well, in the polling right now, the candidate that democrats are choosing as the most electable, the most likely to beat donald trump is obviously joe biden at number one and then bernie sanders at number two. and then elizabeth warren and kamala harris following. they re all pretty different democrats. so that variety of electability keeps changing. and then at the same time, like, we have these voters right now in the most polarized time in politics where we have conservatives who are just going to vote for the candidate who is not a democrat and democrats who are going to vote for a candidate who is not a republican. and meanwhile, there are all these working-class voters and young voters who stayed at ho ....
right. but it s a long record, right? i mean, like, it s one of the things it s one of the differences between running with a small record or, you know, three or four years of votes and 40 years of votes. you talk about how you re going to talk about those 40 years of votes. that s in some ways the central question for biden. the strategy has been to not apologize, to double down. it might change, but for now it has been to not apologize. the truth is a lot of candidates have long records in this race. so i do think the big question look, i was in debates that the first debate went really well for candidates. so back in 2007, barack obama had a terrible first debate. terrible. i remember it. and people really counted him out, and, you know, he managed to do pretty well in the process. yep. so it is just the beginning of this process. yeah. and i think joe biden and others will have a lot to prove in the next round. all right. neera, waleed, thank you both for jo ....
yes, it s always better to do better with everyone. that is a lesson of politics. one thing that s striking to me, waleed, that alex burns pointed out, which i think signals to where we are in this race in terms of time, in march biden and sanders, who i think are the two best-known names, were at 47%. today combined at 36%. mmm-hmm. one of the things i think you re seeing, waleed, is that, you know, a lot of that early polling, march, april, may, june, a lot of it is name recognition. the race really does start now. one debate could really shift things. as we saw with the debate last week with kamala harris kind of going after joe biden s record on bussing and school desegregation. i was mentioning earlier is that there are other constituencies in the democratic electorate that might get activated toward different candidates and shift through being exposed to the front-runner, joe biden s record on various issues where he s a little out of touch with or a lot of out of touch ....
Issues here or there maybe, but hillary clinton was known as a tough candidate, has seen through a lot, and he still defeated her. so i think this was a particular burden for every candidate. and i think what happened with kamala is that she demonstrated in real time that she is tough enough and capable enough to prosecute the case. as she d been, you know, she d been touting that she s a prosecutor who can make the case against him. then she demonstrated it in real time. with both a personal story as well as a basic argument. and i think that s why she did so well. what do you think, waleed, about this sort of question of thinking about electability as its own thing versus thinking how you think dynamic, compelling, persuasive the candidates are as you watch them as a democratic primary voter. yeah, well, in the polling right now, the candidate that democrats are choosing as the most electable, the most likely to beat donald trump is obviously joe biden at number one and then bern ....
So back in 2007, barack obama had a terrible first debate. terrible. i remember it. and people really counted him out, and, you know, he managed to do pretty well in the process. yep. so it is just the beginning of this process. yeah. and i think joe biden and others will have a lot to prove in the next round. all right. neera, waleed, thank you both for joining us. still ahead, the president s daughter tags along at the g20. it didn t go great. plus, tonight s thing one, thing two starts next. it s time for our lowest prices of the season on ....