i want to start with garrett haake, you are in the center of the action. we ve been hearing from lawmakers. to my ears, i don t hear any break in this gridlock. what s your take at this hour? . reporter: yeah, you with choose your own news here at this point, depending on who you re talking to. i m outside a meeting that s been going on susan collins office and the democrats coming out have said no comment, on made vague comments like there s been progress. lindsey gram just left. he s been probably the sagele-most key negotiator. he sees some of the dynamics as potential something to be optimistic about, specifically this idea that the senate would be able to move forward sometime optimism their close to turning a corner. the work will continue at least until tomorrow. just to drill down on the point you make, they are considering essentially the deal that seems to be gaining the most team is this short-term three-week deal. so the question is why would democrats go for this deal when they wouldn t go for the one that was on the table at the end of the week? reporter: that is exactly the question. because it is the same piece of legislation, except instead of going four weeks, it goes to three. the argument is that democrats might like this deal, because it puts more pressure on the white house, it potential creates momentum that might not otherwise exist to strike a deal in the next three weeks on something that everyone agrees is a priority, dealing with these daca kids. now, the question about what democrats are willing to accept is a good one. the white house has trying to cast this as we re giving up a concession this week, and so far the democrats aren t biting. garrett, i know it s been a marathon 24, going on 48 hours for you. thank you, my friend. and a marathon for you, jeff, as well. set the scene at the white house. what is the mood there right now based on your reporting. is there any optimism that this gets done today? no on the m. i can tell you president trump has been on the phone all day, a spokesperson tells us, the white house in the last hour has called a lid, which means we don t expect to see him the rest of the day. that doesn t preclude him from tweeting, and we already saw some of the tweets he sent out today. let s talk about the political messaging. it s fairly remarkable. on the one handle democrats are saying republicans are pitting children against children s, means children who benefit from c.h.i.p., and then the children benefiting from daca and then alose it s not clear which side wins the political argument, but on a substantive level you have democrats saying they aren t willing to renegotiate reopening the document until republicans come to the take and talk about immigration, and not clear at this point how or who breaks this impasse, kristin. it seems like both sides are increasingly dug in within shut down now 17 hours and counting. jeff bennett, thank you. marc short said today there would be no negotiations on daca until the government is funded. take a listen. we will not negotiate the status of 690,000 unlawful immigrants while hundreds of millions of tax-paying americas, including hundreds of thousands of our troops in uniform and border agents protecting our country are held hostage by senate democrats. joining me now is diane black of tennessee, member and former chairman of the house budget committee. thank you for joining me. thank you for having me it seems like discussions around this three-week short-term measure, just so we get you on the record, would you support a three-week deal? i would. i supported the four-week deal, which, by the way is the same except for one week s difference, which i am very baffled about how the democrats in the senate can continue to act like an dulled child complain care center. when it s the same provisions they have agreed with the provisions that are in the particular document. listen, there were conversations going on and things looked like they were moving forward. why in the world he decided to that until we have march to take care of these issues when our military, people who given their lives are being affected. congresswoman, the answer to that if you are a democrat, they would argue is because this is their best chance to get a deal, and they say, look, it s the trump administration that s ending daca in the first play that created this situation. do they nod have a point there, that it s president trump who is severalally taking daca away and creating the situation that needs to be dealt with? let s take this back. as i always do as a nurse, i take it back to the root cause. we know what president obama did was not under his jurisdiction, it s under the house and senate as justice. it s the legislature that makes that decision. we have until the first week in march to make that decision, to actually put out there some legislation. frankly there were very good conversations occurring, so for them to do what they re doing, i want to ask them, do they have a son? a daughter? a husband? a wife in arm s way? and to feel good they re not being paid? i ve been in that situation. i have a nephew fighting for our country. can we not say this is utmost important that we take care of our people, our men and women in harm s way? congresscom woman, the fact remains that the republicans have control of the white house, the house and the senate, so how does your party not bear responsibility for this shutdown? i only wish we had control of the senate. because of the 60-shoat cloture rule, we have the majority, but we don t have control. i want to i take your point. we don t necessarily have control. this is a president who ran on the platform of saying i am a deal maker. he wrote the art of the deal. in this instance he wantent to close the deal in time. and whose timeline is on on? should he not be meeting with lawmakers? the government is shut down and we just got a lid on the white house. should he not be calling to figure this out? i want to say whose timeline is that? it was schumer s timeline and it s his shutdown that has done there. there were negotiations and opportunities to have talk. you ought saw that. it was schumer going over to the white house. we don t know what the honest true was, but it s month that are just schumer and the president did what schumer has done is to put our american men annilwomen in peril, as well as our children. look, i m a nurse, i want to make sure the children are taken care of. we have time to do what needs to be done. we have over a month to do that. congresswoman, very quickly, because we re running out of time, based on your conversationses there on capitol hill, do you think this gets resolved by monday? it it doesn t seem like the government will hope today. i sure the heck hope so. i care about children and i care about our military. congresswoman diane black, thank you for your time on a very busy saturday. you are very welcome. thank you for have you my. time mag psi jane knuten small and congressional reporter for the hill molly hooper, thank you both for being here. is it seems like both sides are just digging in. i was struck but how different it fell. there was so much blame off the bat. both sides weren t speaking, and it took almost a week for the women of the senate to come together and say, hey, this is not cool, we need to talk to each other. so at least people are talking to each other this time around. that s a great point. that said, they re rapidly heading toward that same situation, where things are getting so bad between mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer, they re not speaking to each other and digging in and starting to blame. when you get the blame game going and the finger pointing going, you devolve into that situation where if they stop talking completely, we ll be in for weeks. we re just going to camp out here. molly, let me have you pick up on that point. really it s an erosion of truth. but what are we are making a deal on? that s what i hear lawmakers say to me. if he tells us what he wants, if he gives us a direction and he says take the hill, we ll take the hill. right now they don t know where to go. when you have schumer coming back, and the is that says let me talk to you guides. and even mcconnell said that. yes, and it s very striking. this is bigger than just daca even nancy pelosi said that today. one keep democratic med says even if we had a deal with daca, we wouldn t be able to fund the budget. even if we have this deal, it doesn t mean we can fund the government for the rest of the next two years, and that s the key. if we get to four weeks from now, what happens then? they don t have the numbers yet. until they go ahead a deal, they can t go anywhere. jay. i think it comes down to personal relationship. you saw in the last session harry reid and mitch mcconnell, they really hated each other and one thing theye they had in common is they both loved the nationals, they both loved baseball. the first thing they would talk about, did you catch the game? when you had chuck schumer to come in, there was this hope that they could reset relations, and that s rapidly devolved. i hear those relations are almost worse off now than the relationship between mcconnell and reid. that s such a critical part of it. you raised the shutdown of 2013, and an interesting lesson came out of that. the republicans got the blame, yet they went on to big victories. could we see the same thing? or are democrats risking potential victories? it s certainly a gamble right now. of how this will play out, particularly in swing states. there are 23 sort of vulnerable seats that are up in the next election. they have to defend those seats in states where immigration is not popular. very quickly, last word. you have 30 who aren t running for reelection. depending on how it works out whether immigration is taken care of in the next few weeks, you never know. thank you for watching this with me. there s a brought to break down. more coverage ahead. but first the other major story today, a live record on the ground, as marches continue out west. we ll be right back. ur years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends, three jobs. you re like nothing can replace brad. then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement™, we ll pay for a car that s a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. with expedia, you can book a flight, then add a hotel, and save. everything you need to go. expedia well come back, everyone, a wave of activism sweeping across the nation. marchers have gathered in cities all around the country. president trump tweeted this message out. get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and welt contrary that has taken place over the last 12 months. blayne alexander is here in washington, and gina kim joins us from los angeles. blayne, set the scene. what are the marchers telling you? obviously president trump trying to reach out to some of the folks who gathered today. any reaction to that there? reporter: you re seeing the message to president trump, the message they ve been trying to leave. in fact the march itself for the most part have dissipate d we v been seeing one by one people leaving their signs in lafayette park. this is right across the street from the white house. people saying they wanted their message tore heard, but also after they left. we wanted to talk about the message, trying to talk to president trump protesting his policies, but they re also looking back at some of the major things that happened the last year, the me too movement, talking about equal pay, equality in the workplace. we also heard a lot of conversations about immigration. that is one thing we heard. people trying to make their choice is heard, and namely a lot of people were talking about the shut down. today s really was a call for women, saying it s not important to vote you but position in positions of power. it shows just how many people are focused on that today. and gina, you are out and you ve been out all day with folks in last. why did they want to come out and march today? one year after president trump s inauguration? reporter: the reasons are very similar to what blayne just mentioned, anything from women wanting to be together with like-minded people, and changing the ware of the election coming up, and right now the woman speaking on the stage is michael jackson s daughter parents. she was rockses just a mobs ago who was dancing with ted danson. the a-listers have been up there. just talking about their experiences, trying to empower all the people out here, saying what happened if what happened in our industry can happen with us, it can also happen with you. they got great response to that, because there are just so many issues, and one that s been in the forefront has been about transgender and bigender routes. i didn t know until i met mj difranco what bigender was, and you ve been educating people out here. that s why you felt compelled to country down from francis today. educate us. i am bigender. for many years i knew there was something different about it me. i knew i wasn t the transgender that most understand, because i didn t fully identify as male or female. i didn t have the terminology for it. for so many years i stayed in the closet. i was afraid of identifying myself wrong. so bigender is when you identify as two genders. i identify as male and female. reporter: and you ve been getting great response. it s been great. as i experienced last years a bit of trans-fob use which is unfortunate, but that s why i want to be out here, to educate people. with information come power, and the ability to accept different people and different things. reporter: i ve learned a lot from you today. mj is just one of hundreds, if not thousands of bigender and transgender men and women out here. another huge group says i am a d.r.e.a.m.er, my rely it was are d.r.e.a.m.ers, that s the voices we have been hearing. what a diverse crowd. thank you so much. great work, laidiers. next, what will it take to strike a deal? and how much this stalemate is costing americans? that s when we come right back. mom, i have to tell you something. dad, one second i was driving and then the next. they just didn t stop and then. i m really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you re ok. that s all that matters. (vo) a lifetime commitment to getting them home safely. love. it s what makes a subaru, a subaru. end this shutdown. use the authority you are asking for under this rule to bring to the floor the items on which we agree. mr. speaker, you said you would do that take on the tough issues. i admired that statement. i will tell my friend the speaker of the house i will admire even more the performance. speaker ryan said we will not duck the tough issues, we will not kick the can down the road, we will lead, we will not blame others. below speaker, i ask you to do just that. stop ignoring the responsibility as the majority party to keep the government open and serving the american people. now, mr. speaker, i asked unanimous consent to bring up hr-4872, the end the shutdown act of 2018, a continuing resolution through tuesday that would immediately reopen the government while negotiations continue on a budget agreement that adhere to parity, reauthorizing the children s health insurance program and other critical health care programs, addressing the issue of d.r.e.a.m.ers as requested by the president of the united states and providing assistance to citizens impacted by natural disasters. as the minority whip must surely know, the time dedicated is for debate purposes only. that s steny hoyer, who you were listening to, calling on the house speaker to end this shutdown and to stop kicking the can down the road, something that former congressman paul ryan said several years ago. let s bring in french hill of arkansas. thank you for joining muss. sure, kristin. thank you. let me ask you respond to your colleague steny hoyer, who says it s up to the republicans, the party who has control, to reopen the government. does he have a point? first, thanks for having me. i have great respect for steny hoyer, he s an outstanding leader of the minority. we passed all 12 appropriations bill and a four-week straight-line that leader hoyer spoke about. the house has done its work. what we are waiting on now is leader mcconnell and minority leader schumer to reach agreement, so we have time to work on a dealing on our d.r.e.a.m.ers. we just heard steny hoyer with a way out, pass a cr for four days. we have passed a resolution. now you re in gridlock. we re nod in gridlock. the senate was debating going to february 8th. we expect to hear from the senate what date is acceptable, and if it s shorter, i would consider that. the issue is we need the senate to help us, the house having done our work, also operate in good faith. congressman, let me ask you about the president s leadership on all of this. we didn t hear from him today, with the exception of twitter. we know he had phone calls. but he didn t have any meetings at the white house. has he shown the type of leadership you would expect him to? that was his big argument of the president, to get a deal done. right. well, i think he has democrat stralted leadership, in how to get ngo not only a continues resolution, but get an appropriate equitiability solution. sectly, i do appreciate him directing the omb and director mull investigate join to make this shutdown as easy as possible on or constituents. congressman were you surpriseds to no meetings at the white house today? i think what you have seen today is it to meet the programs. i think he s given them the big picture. it s the one-year anniversary of the inauguration and according to the policy, the majority and 38% when asked, said which words describes him best? they used the worth disgusted. are you concerned that this could be a drag on the republican party in the mid terms? well, what i m concerned about is we have fewer tweets and more legislation and more work to keep moving our economy forward. that s what i think we ve gotten down in the past 12 months a good start on more opportunity through the tax bills that was passed in the congress, but i agree, we need less rhetoric and more work together. congressman hill, i know it s an incredibly busy day, so i really appreciate your time. thank you. tens of thousands of people at the participating. could the momentum fuel a new political landscape? 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we don t yet know if they ll be successful, but i would say they re off to a good start. mariana atencio thank you so much for all the reporting today. nearly 50 first-time candidates for office are featured on time s latest cover. the magazine calls them the avengers, laura underwood is running for a seat. thank you for a joining me. thank you, kristin. what made you want to run? was it the election of president trump? was it the mar? marches all across the country that happened a year ago? what was it? i absolutely joined the millions of women marching last year, but i was spurred to run after our congressman had one pbs event last year, in which he promised to vote against the version of a health care repeal if it took away the opportunity for folks who had preexisting conditions, different health conditions to have coverage. i m a registered nurse, and i notice hoe critical health care is, and i worked to implement the affordable care act. i ve read the law and know that it works. and i m an american with a heart condition. it s one of those diagnoses where, you know, if these repeal bills went through, i wouldn t be able to get health care coverage, so his stance on that health law was critical for me. so he did not present his intentions accurately, and he actually voted for the repeat bill. afc he did that, i questioned his integrity. so as you watch these debates in washington, around taxes, around daca, are you concerned? democrats have really dig in their heels on the issue of immigration, are you concerned i m not concerned at all. i stand firmly with the d.r.e.a.m.ers and understand we need to stand for something in this time. the american people are with us on immigration, with us on the tax plan, with us on health care, so the republicans really are on the losing side of these areas. lawrencuren, do you think it worth shutting the government down? i lived there you through it as an employee, and it was horrible. it s time to step forward, time to and if they can t do it. it s teem for american people to election a new congress that s willing to do the work. thank you so much. i appreciate it. thank you. the blame game, lawmakers conveyor off on capitol hill. who will blink firth if a budget battle. we ll break that down. why make something this intelligent. 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from young children by not voting to reauthorize c.h.i.p. we wanted to reauthorize c.h.i.p. a month ago but they were too busy with a tax cut that gave benefits to the richest people in the country. $341 billion to real estate developers. they could have given the kids an extension on c.h.i.p. and they decided they didn t want to do it. so it comes with ill-grace for them to bring that up. governor, i hear you on the rhetoric. but don t both sides share the blame on that. isn t everyone using heated rhetoric and in some instances childish rhetoric that isn t progressing the negotiations. right. but at least the rhetoric should have some relationship to the truth. the reason c.h.i.p. isn t reauthorized is the republicans won t bring it up for a vote a month ago. a month ago. but look, you are right, kristen. there is too much rhetoric. there is too much heat in this. there is too much looking to put the political blame on each side. but it comes down to presidential leadership. the president has to tell the congress what he would accept. the republicans aren t going to move without that. and the president has got to be crystal clear. and as you heard, senator mcconnell himself say he doesn t know where the president stands. let me and that is the relationship and that won t get done. let me let caylee jump in here. you want to respond to a whole host of things that the governor said. what do you make of the fact that president trump from the perspective of democrats getting the blame for this. well he doesn t deserve the blame. that is ridiculous. because there is nothing in this bill that democrats oppose. they are for c.h.i.p. and funding the government. and in all due respect to governor rendell, it is not rhetoric when we say that democrats are holding the future of 9 million children and 2 million of them sick hostage to the fate of 700,000 illegal immigrants. that is truthful. the washington post glem kessler dismantled the jimmy kimmel argument that that was not true. it is true that the house passed a bill to sustain c.h.i.p. democrats have never produced legislation to sustain c.h.i.p. the short-term c.r. funding in december maintained funding for c.h.i.p. republicans have sustained funding for this. democrats have not even produced a piece of legislation. if they care so much, they would have showed and give the 9 million children to access of health care. and caylee, republicans control the white house and the house and the senate. and i ve asked a number of your republican colleagues about this. but don t republicans ultimately bear responsibility. you guys have control of the government right now. we do. and that is why the house did pass a c.h.i.p. bill to fund c.h.i.p. but ultimately when we get to the senate, we all know this and taken civics. you need 60 votes to get something through the senate. we need nine democrats. where are the nine democrats coming to the table because this government can t stay open and we can t fund c.h.i.p. without them. the governor, it is true you need 60 votes in the senate and back in 2013 republicans got blamed for that shutdown because they wouldn t get on board or, are they going to bear the responsibility of this, ultimately when voters go to the polls. look, kristen, as you know, the senate majority priority calls the counter. if he called up for a vote a month ago, you would have gotten not only nine, but 49 democrats voting for it. so that is a butch of bull that the democrats didn t want to pass c.h.i.p. but look, 87% of the american people, including a majority of republicans want the d.r.e.a.m.ers to be protected. it is simple. sit down, protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers, and let s give the president some increased border security, and ivan give him money to buttress the existing wall to do repairs an get it done. it is simple. 87% of the american people want it. they don t think these d.r.e.a.m.ers are illegal. they think they are good american citizens. i hear you. who served in the army and some have given their lives to this country. let me ask you about a recent poll, though. 58% of people said they were opposed to shutting down the government over daca. what do you make of those numbers? well, look, it s the only chance we ve got because the president ended daca. remember, this didn t happen because time line ran out, the president decided to end daca. and this is the only leverage we ve got to get it done. so what is so hard about it. if everyone is for it, and i heard speaker ryan say, we re all for giving the d.r.e.a.m.ers protection. well let s do it now. let s get it over with. but governor rendell, but we know that president obama did this via executive action and he said 22 times, i lack the authority to do this and he did it, these daca recipients are in this position because of president obama unconstitutional action. if everyone wants to everyone wants to do it and everyone claims they do, what is the big deal. let s do it now and keep the government open. caylee, does he have a good point. what is the big deal democrats say let s stop kicking the can down the road and deal with this issue because march is the drop dead date. there is the drop dead date and that is in march. and president trump has moved on this. president trump said let s get permanent daca and now it is incumbent upon democrats to move toward him and say yes, we ll give you a border wall, it is give and take. before i let go. i have to ask you about polling. a washington post poll which shows a majority of americans right now blame president trump and republicans for this shutdown. 48%. are you going to feel that when voter go to the poll in the mid term. not at all. the cnn poll showed they didn t want a shutdown over daca. they don t want to shutdown, the facts are getting out there and americans are waking up and realize this is a shutdown that didn t need to happen. governor could i say one quick thing. very quickly. we re out of time, go 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lying, pomposity, smuggness, overall, groupthink. dvr it if you know how that hworks. more than anything though, have a terrific evening. you ve had the main course and now the dessert, the great sean hannity in new york city. sean: i m telling that story. so when you are back in new york with laura, we are all getting in this room and i m telling secrets. i and i m telling secrets about you two. tucker: [laughs] sean: oh, it s coming out. tucker: i m embarrassed already. sean: we are 98 days away from the single most important midterm election in our lifetime. we are 440 days into robert mueller s corrupt political witch hunt, and the trial of paul manafort kicked off in a northern virginia court room. you would think it s the trial of the century, it s not. he s facing potential life in prison or a tax charge that had nothing to do with russia from 2005. today the trial of paul manafort kicked off in what are alleged crimes had nothing to do with president trump or russia or collusion. nothing! instead the prosecution of paul manafort represents yet the latest and another example of team mueller turn the screws on a one-time trump ally in order to extort something, anything, on president trump. in moments we will highlight the sad two-tiered justice system in this country and we will tell you who is going to really be facing charges tonight if we had equal, equal application under the laws and equal justice under the law without political prejudice, and criminalizing political differences. meanwhile, before trump took s e stage, jimmy acosta got a taste of what trump voters really think about cnn fake news. i will give some advice to fake news cnn tonight, and how they can regain the trust that they have lost. watch your fake news media in action from earlier today. trial day one for trump s former campaign manager paul manafort. he s facing a slew of charges this is also the first high-profile test of special counsel robert mueller. if, for example mr. manafort is found guilty, that makes it a real problem for the president of the united states. is there time for him to cut a deal? paul manafort. paul manafort. paul manafort. the president s former campaign chair is accused of hiding at least $30 million. we will learn the nitty-gritty details about paul manafort s financial situation. the jury has just been seated paul manafort. did you see what color tie paul manafort was wearing? he did not either because he sat with his back to us. sean: there is your media obsessing over a 2005 tax case. mr. manafort s bank fraud. you d really care about what information mr. manafort can give you that would reflect on mr. trump or lead to his prosecution or his impeachment or whatever. and judge t.s. ellis goes on to say that mueller wanted to tighten the screws all in an effort to make manafort sing or compose. by the way, compose means, i will make up any story you want to stay out of jail. that s the only reason this trail is happening. now if found guilty, manafort faces, for the 2005 tax case, up to life in prison, over financial related charges. it has nothing to do with russia at all. nothing to do with president trump. i think he worked with the president for less than 100 days. in fact, witnesses have been w instructed to avoid using trump s name altogether. in order to prevent political bias from playing a role with the jury. now without a doubt, metaphoric without a doubt, manafort s aggressive prosecution from our special counsel who is supposed to be investigating russia, russia, russia, is one more clear example, in thef united states of america today, sadly, we have a two tiered system of trust is country. anyone ever associated with president trump is now under the legal microscope. but hillary clinton, 2016, exoneration before investigation. literally, they were writing it in may. they don t interview her until july and three days later she s outt for you. we know she committed crimes. we know the server was hacked by foreign entities. we know she violated the espionage act. mishandled a secret intelligence. where is that a server? where are those emails? why did she destroy classified top secret information? we all know that if any of you out there, if you had deleted subpoenaed emails, acid wash your hard drive with bleach Commentary, newsmaker interviews and panel discussions. off on it. what about peter strzok and lisa page? two investigations, one in favor of the candidate they love, andd one against the candidate they hate. where is andrew mccabe? we know the deputy fbi director is a liar and heth probably shod be charged with certain crimes as well. where is clapper? where is john brennan? leaking the dossier information to people, like, what, he reread? this is the sad truth tonight in america. we have a two tiered justice system. as mark levin says, we live in a post-constitutional america. we better get our country back. we better start demanding equal justice under the law, equal application of our laws, or else we are going to lose our rights and our freedoms, as a constitutional republic forever. that is why this upcoming midterm election in 98 days will be the single most important midterm in our lifetimes. we have only just begun to peel [boos] they launched outrageous attacks on our incredible law enforcement officers and on i.c.e. and our border patrol. can you believe it? people that keep us safe. their new platform, what they want to do, the democratic party, they want to abolish i.c.e. in other words, they want to let ms-13 rule our country. that is not going to happen. in some states, democrats are even trying to give illegal immigrants the right to vote! they want to give them the right to vote! [boos] if you want to safety, if you want borders, if you want to have a country, then you need to go out and vote republican. sean:n: tonight, what president trump slammed, rightly, democrats, many in the crowd actually called out the abusively biased press in this country. in fact, many floridians in attendance led to cnn s jim acosta know exactly what they thought about his networks partisan abusively biased coverage. take a look. the white house has held only three briefings for the press this month, and eight total since the end of may. there is no way to describe with the white house is doing these days, top officials, including the president, are hiding from the press,m and to give you a sense as to what is happening right now, you can hear there is there a chorus of boos and other chants. they are saying things like cnn sucks, go home, and fake news. we are going to stay right here and do our job and report on this rally to all of our viewers tonight. sean: jim, they are not wrong. it s not false. you are probably watching because you don t want your own network. i m going to actually give your network some advice, if you have an open mind, an open heart, may be a little humility. the people of this country, they are screaming at you for a reason. they don t like your unfair, abusively biased treatment of be different than border security. no, actually i don t, jim. there could be more ages, fencing, it doesn t necessarily mean a physical wall. that is part of the negotiation we expect congress to have. democrats are saying they may not be in favor of this kind of deal. they say things, but no thanks. jim, i am not negotiating with you. i will let congress take care of that. what we are witnessing is the erosion of our freedoms and in s of covering the president. there are moments when this president is just really sensitive to criticism, and he lashes out in this fashion. that is just strange and nonpresidential thing to do, to be throwing rolls of paper towel or people. the last three news conferences, well, all of the questions to the american news media have been handled by a conservative press. i think, wolf, there is no way to describe it but the fix is in. the statue of liberty has always been a symbol of hope to the world of q jim, do you believe they are not always going to jim, do you believe jim, jim, i appreciate your speech. we saw the president s true colors today and i am not sure that they were red, white, and blue. sean: not red, white, and blue? jim acosta, that is called opinion. you re extremely rude. oh, and a liberal partisan hack. that is why americans don t trust you or fake news cnn. you pretend to be fair and unbiased journalists. you are not. you are not reporting facts. you are giving your opinion. you are an opinion channel! every minute of every day, every week, 24/7, hate drama. it s pretty obvious. people see it. instead of doubling down on your anti-trumpn rage, maybe look inward. maybe find your zen. maybe find your inner peace. analyze objectively the overwhelming, nonstop, hysterical coverage against the president. in other words, maybe you ll have better luck getting an interview if you start being a little fair. a maybe, just maybe, you ll take my advice. i checked it out at. we do have a recent study, fox news, that s right, this channel, not fake news cnn, is among the most trusted brands in tv news. sadly i doubt cnn will take my advice. while cnn continues to trash the president, hour w after hour, minute afterer minute, day after day, many on the left, other never trappers, engaging in rhetoric that is even worse. literally the bottom of the barrel. now this week on twitter, one congressional candidate from oregon used one of the single most vulgar terms to describe first lady of the united states, imagine the outrage if a republican candidate ever said the same thing about the former first lady, michelle obama. the outrage from these very same people would be nonstop. the media is largely ignored this story. so some republicans are calling for twitter l to ban this derand trump heater from their social media platform. we want to hold our breath. with 98 short days until these brilliant brain surgeon who has saved thee lives of so many, including many in our military. happy 50th birthday, pete. thjoining us now with reaction, fox news contributor sara carter, author of of the numbee book in the country, the russia hoechst: the illicit scheme to frame donald trump unclear hillary clinton, gregg jarrett. we ll rush get good mentor? no, trump campaign won t. this is a perfect example of, you will be persecuted and prosecuted if you so much shake hands with donald trump or join, however briefly, his presidential campaign. if you are friends of hill and bill, you get a sweetheart deal, or immunity and to get out of jail free card. she should have been in jail a long time ago. james comey abuse the position of his office, as fbi director, to clear hillary clinton in the face of compelling evidence of criminality, in order to clear her path to the presidency and on the very day he cleared her, he launched the investigation of donald trump meeting secretly with the author of the anti-trump dossier who was on the payroll of hillary clinton and he was off to the races to destroy trump. really, that is the thesis of the book, the russia hoechst. sean: sara, you broken a lot of stories on this program. i am watching a 2005 case that ateven the judge says, we don t care about manafort s taxes. what you care about is putting the screws to manafort so he sings or a composes, so you can prosecute or impeach donald trump. that is the only reason we are here, and o all these other people, whose corruption you ve exposed, and helped expose with gregg, they are not on trial today. i think every american needs to be worried. remember, sean, judge ellis himself said that he begrudgingly moved forward with this case, only because rod rosenstein gave so much latitude for special counsel mueller. he gave them all this latitude. let s not forget that andrew weissmann is in charge of this case, right? andrew weissmann, who, by the way, had met with the associated press the day before the associated press wrote that b big expose, this is befoe he joined the manafort team, and the associated press wrote that big expose on paul manafort on april 12, 2017, and now they are fighting bad. you know, andrew weissmann was never removed from this case, and should have been investigated because the fbi themselves, the people that were in that meeting with the ap, had actually filed a complaint against andrew weissmann. we are seeing a case, in 2014, 2014, the government had the opportunity to go after paul manafort. i don t know what he did. g you don t know everything he did. they decided sean: i don t know the ukraine deals he did. let me ask gregg, as is the same weissmann wasn t he excoriated by two judges or withholding exculpatory evidence? sure. sean: the same guy that has of thousands of jobs at andersen accounting were lost? overturned unanimously by the supreme court. sean: 9-0? yes. sean: did did any but four merrill executives in jail for a year? ruin their lives, and they were released because what weissmann did was wrong. sean: overturned by the fifth circuit? why would somebody hire somebody without record that has been excoriated by judges for withholding exculpatory evidence? if you want to hire a team of partisans to be unfair and not a neutral and u to conjure a case out of thin air against somebody who is innocent. that is what they are doing here. sean: this is all in your book? it is. this is a perfect example of what happened in court. prosecutors tried to smear paul manafort simply because he s rich. the judge stopped them and turn to the jurors and said, it is nott a crime to have a lot of money. this is how pernicious these prosecutors are, how unprincipled and unscrupulous theyey are. sean: sara, i look up his track record of a guy who is leading this case, and i think of what the president said, 13 partisan democrats. isn t one of them, not just andrew weissmann, jeannie rhee, how many tell me if i m wrong. didif she ever worked for the clinton foundation as a lawyer? yes, sean. this should not be shocking to people right now. what we are seeing over and over again as extraordinary targeting of the presidentr and everyone surrounding the president and these people are doing everything theyy can to go after him and this is one example of that and we ll see other examples in the future. sean: with you, gregg s book, me, i don t think they like any of us. keep up the work for a number one of the country.d coming up, a warning about [ horn honking ] [ engine revving ] what s that, girl? 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okay. they gave him a deal. they said, if you testify i think it was against john gotti at the time. ifn you testified, we won t put you in jail for killing 19 people. some say 20. he then gets the government to give him a house in arizona and the witness protection program. in other words, they put the screws to him, if you sing or compose, i don t know what he did, i don t remember the case, we are going to give you a sweetheart deal. you have all these people getting sweetheart deals in that manafort case. here s my question as a judge an attorneys, how often do they offer deals like this, and aren t there many people that will say, what you want me to say, to get me out of jail? there is no question. it speaks to the article that bernie wrote today. that is not u.s. attorneys very often have a political agenda. that political agenda will determine whether orag not they want to forgive someone who has murdered 19 people that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt, so that they can go after e someone else. they are going after mueller and bernie can talk about this, because they want to squeeze in. they are going after michael cohen sean: fibroid you ever elect somebody who killed 19 people make a deal? isn t going to say whatever you want him to say? when i was a d.a., i would make deals with drug dealers to gett after the guy who was above thatt drug dealer. you do it all the time and law enforcement. sean: but what credibility do they have come a bernie? thee heart of your article. the credibility is no maximu. every one of the people i mentioned in the article, cohen, flynn, and manafort, they are specifically investigated targets, just because they knew trump. just because they were associated with him. sean: all three. and cohen, who i am pretty disappointed with, at this stag stage, cohen ironically was his attorney, and they targeted him intentionally for this reason, to create a conflict, make him a witness, and guarantee that he can no longer talk to trump. that is the purpose between targeting the attorney. you talk about what they did twith senator they charge michael flynn with one false statement. sean: both fbi agents and comey said they didn t think he was lying. he s had to sell his home. they said, we will go after your cat. i m assuming that happened and i will guarantee what happened. what father is not going to dive on the sword to kill themselves for their kid to? they do it all the time. that is what they do to get people to plea. we are going after your son. after your mother, your daughter. we wantr this guy, in order to get him, everyone he s ever touched sean: why would a jury would ever tell mike believe somebody who caught a deal? s book of the prosecutor will say, this is the only way we can prove a crime. we don t even like doing what we do. then the jury says, wait a minute. what they are doing in the manafort case, they are bringing in all kinds of evidence to show he thinks he s above the law. he bought persian rugs and an ostrich jacket. sean: how great was the judge? if you are wealthy, it s not a crime. he s great. a great judge. i give this drudgery a lot of credit. emmet sullivan, the judge in the flynn case, the new judge, these guys know sean: sullivan g said i ll decide what s exculpatory. give me all of it. that s right. that is fortunate for these men. normally, that is not the case. normally, the prosecutors, federal prosecutors, sort of run rogue over these cases and when they do so, the judges sit back and let them do what they want. sean: if i m on the jury, and i am listening to the defense asked, did you cut a deal with those guys over there? did a friend to put you in jail? did they say you are not going to go to jail if you do this? i m dismissing that person. i don t believe you, if you cut a deal to get out of jail, you are basically bribed and paid. true ordodo false? you would do this, yes. but you have people sitting on a jury, and the prosecutor already has them sean: aren t they bribing witnesses? yes! sean: they are bribing witnesses? it s worse than that sometimes. they are bribing the witnesses to get them to testify but a lot of times sean: compose? it is what alan dershowitz said earlier. they extort testimony that is falls out of these people. sean: that is what judge ellis meant when he said sing or compose. what would you like me to say to give me out of jail? it s the same with michael cohen. i sat on my show this weekend, that guy, he ll confess to sinking the titanic because he wants to get out of jail. when the jury looks at him, they will say, the prosecutor makes a good case. they had to do this to get the evidence. otherwise they can t get the bad guy. sean: i don t believe bribery is the only way to get evidence. do you know what the conviction rate is? 97, 98%. sean: 65, 75% around the . the feds got you. sean: that is not going to make news. why did you say that? i want them to know my point is the feds, when they squeeze you, they squeeze you tried. sean: good to see you both. by the way, judge jeanine pirro s book, number one on the new york times. number one. liars, leakers, liberals. in stores everywhere! number one on amazon. you have been out for how many weeks? proud of you. jesse and jessica. well mark. this will get interesting next. straight ahead. it s like a load off my shoulders. i was just excited for it to be over. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it s been prescribed to more than a quarter million people and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. before starting harvoni your doctor will test to see if you ve ever had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after harvoni treatment. tell your doctor if you ve ever had hepatitis b, a liver transplant, other liver or kidney problems, hiv or any other medical conditions and about all the medicines you take including herbal supplements. taking amiodarone with harvoni can cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. common side effects of harvoni include tiredness, headache and weakness. ready to let go of hep c? 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[cheers and applause] it was a number that everybody said was not reachable and i would never want to say it during the campaign, even though i believed it. we are setting records like never before. since the election, we have added 3.7 million new jobs. they would not have believed me. [cheers and applause] we are in the longest positive job growth streak in history. think of that. sean: that was theto president earlier tonight, tampa, florida, touting his economic accomplishments. his record speaks for himself. with the midterms, 90 days away, jessica s friends are working on overdrive to downplay and discredit this record. this is what the hill reported, t celebrities dive io midterms, hoping to thwart trump. withrt reaction, he s got two shows, host of watters world , h cohost of the five, and fox news contributed jessica tarlov. obama, 13 million more americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, lowest accumulative more president combined. trump, 4 million jobs created, the best labor participation rate we ve ever had, record low unemployment, 14 states, hispanic americans, african-americans, women in the workplace, and we have more jobs available in america than we have had on unemployment. the single greatest of economy we have had in ten years. tell me what s wrong with that. why would you want to go back to your friend, obama, and his record and agenda? because he did that. sean: uterus loss. president obama added over a 11 million jobs, 13 million americans who are injured because of president obama. i didn t shake my head at you. i m not calling you stupid but it s the economy, stupid. when obama was in charge, sean: that his maturity. w got to cover my bases. when obama was in charge, 1.6 average gdp growth. trump is averaging 3% growth. wages are up. the stock market the wages are the problem. the president sean: record low unemployment rate what happens during the state of the union? no one claps when it was announced because you guys are running on socialism, open borders, and impeachment. the face of your party is maxine waters. she chases everybody out of a restaurant. nancy pelosi is the most unpopular politician in america and then you have trump, a stable genius, 38%. she s not at 48%. talk to any poster at the rasmussen poll rasmussen nailed to the 16 election. sean: rasmussen did nail the 2016. a lot of posters maxine waters is not the face of our party. hillary clinton isn t,t, either. who is the face? a lot of i different people. depends where you are. sean: i can tell you the cce of the republican party. about a big fan of him. i have more things to say also. 4.6% gdp growth. president trump got four quarters sean: what was his average? 1.6. he also said, we will go to seven, eight, 9%. that s utterly ridiculous. i remember when barack obama was talking about bringing jobs back. 300,000 manufacturing jobs left america under barack obama. donald trump already added 300,000. sean: he said those jobs were never coming back. i don t know why first of all, grating someone on two years of this. president obama he did more into years and than obama did in eight years. i read char charlie hurt suite free factually inaccurate. sean: we have 2 minutes left and i already have a winner. i feel like i m doing a good job. let s talk about solar and wind energy. [laughter] 369%. yes, there was a decree and call jobs. sean: you know the future is? flex fuels. the future in america will be the world s dominant reducer and energy by the end of the trump administration. you don t think it will be clean coal? that will be part of the solution. you could make ethanol out of i it. > what do you think about the tariff war? you know what i think a good trade was? trump put america first instead of america last. is that how the soybean farmers feel? short-term gain for a long term gain. it s like when i go to the gym. no pain, no gain? i have heard people say that. the soybean farmers, not big fans, those that were coca-cola, caterpillar managed to earn enough they could offset sean: what happened with europe? betrayed war? did we get a better deal? wee haven t seen the final settlement. we are moving toward progress. sean: did we get a better deal? we got a better deal. you don t know that. sean: the president that had negotiated? no, obviously. concession. it s not really a concession. sean:er you can say, thank you, president trump. the president got the european countries to cover the cost of nato.nt sean: aren t you happy all these manufacturing jobs coming back? aren t you happy the economy is doing well? you know what the problem is, your party, every bit of good news is bad news for your party. they don t like it. if you look at how the president sean: bill maher said it. i don t agree with bill maher. i don t know any democrats for the face of the party h or not. the president is rated highly i actually think i am doing well this evening. [laughter] you are bringing celebrities to campaign. you guys would love it if the sub lavertyce wanted to campaign for you. kanye west sensor 28 in favor of the president did you guys are riding high on him. sean: you could have all of hollywood. you got them already. you know what? what? not a theater buff? sean: it was a bad day for you. it s jesse s world. he owns it. e bye. sean: when we come back, i love the story. the president pardoned alice marie johnson. she was going to spend 20 years in prison but thanks to president trump, she s here. her incredible story next. great-grandmother. she served nearly 22 years in prison. one offense. first-time, nonviolent drug offense. life sentence. it s insanity. president trump did rightly commute alice s sentence and you all remember i m getting goose bumps watching it now and emotional video. aliceit reuniting with her famiy early last month after nearly 22 years behind bars. by the way, kim kardashian is receiving backlash after refusing to malign the president in an interview with mr. weinstein, jr., jimmy kimmel, last night. take a look. i am very hopeful that more good things are going to come out of our conversations. i have nothing bad to say aboutg the president. you still have people on the list. i m very focused. i, don t agree with everything either. and i wasn t i had no idea what to expect, going in there, i just was like, look, i m going to be focused. it really turned my view around in this category. sean: with reaction live in studio, alicece marie johnson. i am so honored you are here. i am so happy you are out. thank you. sean: i don t talk about conversations i ve had with the president but when i saw him last, we talked about you. that video moved his heart. actually said to me, i m going to do more of this. how do you feel? i feel, this does not seem real. my sisters in the studio with me tonight. sean: hi. she s t the one who ran out d brought the roses to me. the reaction that i m getting from the public, every single place that i go, if people recognize who i am, they hugged me,, they tell me how happy they are that i m home. they tell me how much they were praying for me, and how they followed from the day he came to the white house, they were prayer vigils going on all over. sean: how hard was that? it has been very painful for me and my s family. we ve had so many ups and downs, so many false alarms that it was going to happen for a years. we have fought and fought and fought. sean: donald trump did it. and kim kardashian, god bless her, she went to the white house for you. howw cool was that? on my birthday. she realized it was on my birthday. i was watching tv that day. i didn t have any idea that what she was about to do, happy birthday, alice marie johnson, today is for you. i am so happy that kim is staying focused because there are so many others just like me who are nonviolent offenders. sean: how do you get a life sentence off of no previous crime ever? you didn t even get a parking ticket! that is insane. the system is broken. sean: it s busted. it needs to be fixed. sean: i agree with you. i m so happy you recognize that. sean: the president said he s going to doth more of it. you want him to do more of it. yes, i do. i m so happy that his heart has been touched to do more. sean: you touch death. he told me personally. you did. there s something else you did that amazed me. i loved what you said. you came out and said, thank you, america. you think the president. thank you for giving me a chance. i won t let you down. you are not going to let him down. there is no way. this country is a country of second chances. i love america. i believe that if the president sees what has taken place, he is going to follow up and do some other things for other people. sean: there are other alice marie johnsons. i m not the only one. people see my face and that is what they need to see. i am just like you. i am just like other families. my family is with me tonight. sean: how many years did your lawyer work on mccoy s? work on the case? for ten years. sean: pro bono, right? amazing. thank you for whatt you did. there is your sister. listen, i am so happy, and i hope you see the president and tell him your story so that he can hear, we can there are other people like you that deserve that chance. just like me. sean: god bless you. it s an honor to meet you. so glad you are free. when we come back, some of the highlights from the president s rally earlier tonight in florida straight ahead. i think he might need some support. yes start them off right. with the school supplies they need at low prices all summer long. save $200 on this dell laptop at office depot officemax. -the colossus of rhodes. -[ sighs ] louise dustmann [ ding ] -brahms lullaby, or wiegenlied. -when will it end? [ ding ] -not today, ron. ? ? sean: during tonight s rally, president trump talked about north korea and that disaster of a deal. take a look. we are doing well in north korea, we have our hostages back, as you know. [applause] there has been no nuclear tests. there has been no missiles or rockets flying, beautifully over japan. [applause] i think of our relationship is very good with chairman kim, and we ll all see how it all workswi out because there s nothing like talking. the iran nuclear deal. it s a horror show. [boos] i hope it works out well with iran. having a lot of difficulty right now. i hope it works out well. i have a feeling that we ll talk pretty soon. and maybe not, and that s okay too. sean: by the way, i do hope that alice johnson that would be awesome. we will always be fair and balanced.
A news and interview program, anchored by Erin Burnett. will be. he said we don t want questioning on obstruction. they would have to concede that. they are not on the same page on this crucial issue of obstruction of justice. why do you think the president is so against questions about obstruction of justice given that the public record on this speaks for itself? he said one thing to nbc news and another thing on twitter. why wouldn t he answer questions when he has been so public about it? what is his issue with it? i think the president does want to sit down with bob mueller and his legal counsel is advising him against this. every good attorney wants to make sure that their client doesn t make any statements that can come back to cause them pain in the future. that is what his legal team i think is recommending that the president doesn t sit down. i think the president does want to sit down with bob mueller and get this behind him. there this is whole idea out there that he likes to be the good cop and say i want to talk to him and then but my lawyers say i can t. so he gets credit for looking like an honest guy when he has no intention of doing it. you don t buy that? i don t buy that. i truly believe that this president wants to tell bob mueller his story but his attorneys don t want him to do it. his attorneys have been negotiating with the mueller team for months now about what a sit down could look like. this is no different than when bill clinton s attorneys were recommending to him not to sit down with ken star. he was forced to do that and his attorneys didn t want him to but he was required to do it. this president is saying you negotiate the terms of this discussion and i will sit down because i have nothing to hide. that is what he wants to do with the mueller team. you heard obviously today he had his intelligence chiefs go out and say that he has directed them to fight meddling. obviously, a few months ago he said they had not. when it comes to russia attacking american elections the president has repeatedly minimized or denied russia s role. here are a few examples. let me just remind our viewers. i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. i will go along with russia. could have been china or a lot of different groups. it could have been somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. why can t he just say russia did it? does he feel that somehow that is admitting that maybe they p helped him in the election? i think sarah huckabee sanders addressed this today during the press conference where she said it wasn t just russia that has attempted to meddle in our elections. they were small fish. every report from the intelligence community, from every person who works for the president said it was russia directed by vladimir putin. united states where he can do something about it. any meddling that took place took place under the obama administration. any hacking that took place was a fault of the previous administration. he was a candidate for office at the time. now we have seen today a steadfast resolve from all of the members of the intelligence community and said we will ensure that the integrity of the election process under this administration in 2018 is whole. that is a direction of this president. he had no ability in 2016 to prevent the outcome of an election. that was under the obama watch. if they failed that is what we are discussing. and yet 18 months ago he was told vladimir putin personally directed this. 18 months ago the intelligence community said vladimir putin did this with the intent to help donald trump and hurt hillary clinton. this was all 18 months ago. today is the first time he sent his intelligence chiefs out to say what they said. that is a 59 d559 days. why did it take so long? with all due respect i think some of the information he received from previous intelligence individuals was biassed and incorrect. more importantly about russia? about a number of things including false dossiers and an investigation i think we know are false. we know there is information that those intelligence individuals whether clapper or comey or others knew it was inaccurate and provided that to the president. as it relates to the integrity of our election process just because we haven t been talking about it doesn t mean there haven t been steps being put in place. if anybody has attempted to influence the outcome of a u.s. election in an inappropriate way they should spend the rest of their lives in jail. i firmly believe that. you have said that. he has not said that. there is a difference. you have worked for him and are loyal to him. what we saw today was a recommitment from the intelligence officials to ensure that they are taking every step necessary that we have integrity at the ballot box at the direction of this president. just because they announced it today doesn t mean they haven t been working on it for months. today they said repeatedly his leadership and his support and gave him credit for that and his direction. five months ago dan coats was very clear. we ll go through each of the names. they were clear that they had not been directed by this president to take on russian meddling. that was five months ago. he had not directed them to do that. that has changed in just the past five months. i don t know when the conversation may or may not have occurred with his intelligence community members. what i do think is they don t need a direction from the president specifically to ensure that we have integrity at the ballot box. this is something they are tasked with and something they need to make sure so we have a free and fair democracy, something that should have started the day that those gentlemen came into office because their predecessors failed during the 2016 election cycle. thank you very much. good to see you. thank you. and next breaking news in the paul manafort trial. his long-time accountant revealing he was broke around the same time he started kocozyg up to the trump campaign. and a suspected russian spy found working at the u.s. embassy in moscow for a decade. 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broke when we are hearing about $60 million bucks from one country. this a breed from oligarchs. particularly the political consultant game can be there can be very big pay days as we know from overseas. paul manafort saw a lot of money to be gained in places like ukraine and sort of desperate characters and actors who had access to a lot of money. frankly, he also saw that in donald trump. the notion of like this guy is about to win it looks like the republican nomination. he is loving this kind of attention. he is loving the train that he is on. how much money can i make from him? it is part of the american political consultant class. it s really surprising. april, again, this issue of being broke. compared to what we heard today from the book keeper and some of the landscapers and others who testified about manafort s spending. i want to show everyone a picture. this is manafort s house in the ha hamptons. this is not the house of a broke man. $450,000 on landscaping and shaped a flower bed in the shape of an m. and then a pond, $2.2 million for apple tvs and other electronics including $10,000 for a karaoke system. it s just stunning. it just gives a perspective of how this person thought. he is spending money like this and then he is broke. in the hole, in the hole. he made it rain. he actually made it rain with the $60 million and it came from basically from the ukraine with connections to russia. here is the thing. we can t fathom this because a lot of people have to deal with paying for college education. if you put two of the jackets together, the python and the ostrich you can possibly put a down payment on an ivy league college education for one year. think of that. he lived in a lifestyle that many of us would not understand. he was spending $1,200 on suits, one suit $1,200. when you deal with a pocket square that is commensurate to the price of the suit and the shirt. for him to be broke like that, according to what they say in 2016, he was trying to come back. he was trying to make a financial come back by doing it for free. he was hanging in circles with people who had the money. he lost his but he was trying to get it back. it almost looked like pathetic you want to get money for campaign manager when you are worth this amount of money. the landscaper said there was a bill presented that supposedly he gave to manafort. the landscaper said i never did. he called it a quote fake invoice. he said the vendor name was wrong, the home improvement vendor said the same thing that something manafort had been presented was not from him, it had the wrong name and address. what could be the significant of these fake invoices? which totalled in hundreds of thousands of dollars a piece. that is a fascinating piece of evidence. we don t know how the prosecutors are going to end up tying that up yet. they are simply laying the foundation. it certainly sounds like from what we heard in court today that this is from merchandise and services possibly never received. that could be an important building block towards the notion that he was hiding money and got money and wanted to make it look like he was spending it. you know rick gates because you were his former lawyer. you know him well. he is obviously centered to all of this. we heard from more people all saying manafort and manafort alone was the one they dealt with, the one who did everything. never heard any mention of rick gates. and now as manafort is trying to say rick gates is the orchestrater of all of this. rick gates may testify tomorrow and hit the stand. you know him. how important is his testimony going to be? i think that rick is extremely important to the case. it s a very bold move by the defense to put all their eggs in one basket and blame him for everything. it is very clever in the sense that he as an operational person is going to be at the center of everything so it allows the defense to mount a broad attack against all of the government s case just by focussing it on him. i think it will be critical. the down side you put all your eggs in one basket. if rick comes across well on the stand that will be devastating for him. if the glove doesn t fit there can be a big issue. most people know who what i am referring. gates and manafort worked side by side for years. manafort was shocked and broken in a certain sense when gates turned on him. this is his worst nightmare. rick gates knows all the secrets. this is a guy who they were extremely close. rick gates was very loyal. paul manafort of all things he thought could go wrong during the investigation, it wasn t rick gates turning on him. the reality is we don t know where this is going to go. in terms of credibility you see the way that the prosecution is going. manafort is very roughed up. you will have rick gates potentially coming in and laying on thick a lot of details that are going to be filling in blanks about either how greedy he was, how willing he was to go with people like donald trump to ukraine for a pay day. april, you heard evan. we are not seeing any no sadness or contrition but a lot of engagement whether with actual exhibits or the computer in front of him from manafort. that s the piece. people want to see that you have some kind of remorse or what have you. it doesn t play well in the court of public opinion when you see your items and you have no regard either way. the bottom line is we ll see what happens how he reacts when rick gates takes the stand. that will be very interesting because rick gates is trying to save himself. he is known, he perjured himself. now the prosecution is saying we want you to believe him. even though he purged himself we want you to believe him because he will be the smoking gun for manafort. we will see how deep this is and how extensive this is. rick gates had a motive. he has i believe four young kids at home. thank you all very much. next bob mueller wants to speak with the russian who helped set up the infamous trump tower meeting with a russian informant. breaking news, a suspected russian spy had been working in the u.s. embassy for more than a decade. why did it take so long for them to either figure it out or fire her? 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theoretically, yes. we are willing to cooperate. this is not big news. we have been engaged in conversations with the mueller team for many months. we have not been able to come to ground on what the terms of any interview would be. what is the hold up? there is obviously something that they are very strong about and you are very strong about. they have been operating in good faith. i think there are issues about location. for some reason the mueller team doesn t want to go to moscow. my folks are not enthusiastic about coming here. what are topics? if it is purely about a single meeting we have nothing to hide from our perspective. they want more. they want more. i think to engage with non-u.s. persons about their business dealings that are separate and distinct i think it is beyond the pail. except there are a lot of ties between the trump family and the agalarov family. their knowledge or links to the trump/russia business connection would appear to be relevant. there are a number of connections. i wouldn t say a tight relationship. there was the miss universe pageant. that is really the extent of the relationship. i think it is a business relationship and a social relationship. so as i said, the miss universe pageant in moscow, they were there together and then talks about the trump tower. that was my idea, amin admitted. trump tweeted to him after the pageant, i had a great weekend with you and your family. they were all together in las vegas. it wasn t just a casual nothing relationship. most definitely there was a relationship. most definitely there was a friendship and there were some threshold business dealings. that is the extent of it. we would love to be in a position to cooperate under the right terms. we have nothing to hide on any issues but getting to ground and what that would be. you are willing to talk about anything about the meeting in trump tower but nothing about the business dealings. this is the kind of stuff we had conversations about. certain things are permissible. to get into wide ranging discussions about other unrelated issues seems out of bounds especially for folks who were not u.s. persons. you are saying this issue about jurisdiction matters and they haven t been to the united states in two years i would say in part because of all of this. the problem is not just about the mueller team. there are congressional investigations, civil lawsuits out there. once you come here you can be subpoenaed. you can be subject to anybody s jurisdiction. there is a skepticism, a concern about being subject to u.s. jurisdicti jurisdiction. moscow is great this time of year. you are not meeting them in person? with the mueller team? with your client? i meet them in moscow. so about the meeting, michael cohen came out with this sort of bombshell allegation as you well know saying donald trump himself knew about the meeting, that michael cohen witnessed don jr. informing his father about the meeting. now, obviously, your clients were not present at any pre-discussions but to the best of your knowledge did the president know about the meeting? my clients have no reason to believe that that occurred. they never spoke to the president about the meeting before or after and they never heard anything either before or after to even suggest the president was inform ed the meeting was going to happen. would they have wanted him to know? someone they know is going to come with information, donald trump is their contact. i would assume they would have liked for him to have known at the time? i think the whole scope of the meeting has been somewhat misrepresented. from my client s perspective this was to talk about the obscure act. from their perspective it was never about dirt on anybody. this was doing a favor to facilitate a meeting between the russian lawyer. the lawyer at the meeting admitted to nbc news she was a russian informant. you are saying the agalarov agalars had no knowledge of that. they knew her because of her real estate practice. nobody had reason to believe she had any government connection. they were surprised when she admitted she was an informant. earlier in the year your client released a video that referenced the allegation in the trump dossier about meeting with prostitutes in a hotel. he is with a donald trump imperson ator. there is a bed and the whole thing. here is a clip. you really got me you really got me good and donald trump is sort of at the side of the room. thisimperson aator. this is purely poking fun at fake news and some of the media tension that has been drawn to things where there is no underlying substance. so he doesn t know anything about it. he is just taking on the allegations of the dossier and making music. that s right. thank you very much. i appreciate it. and next breaking news, cnn learning a russian spy worked at the u.s. embassy in moscow for more than ten years. and things like the president s schedule is on her desk and americans didn t do anything about it. could wbr id= wbr23960 /> paul etjordan be the next governor of idaho? 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well, you know, things do fall between the crack in these embassies. all the russians are reporting to the fsb in one way or another. she probably went way farther than the other ones in getting documents, the president s schedule and the rest of it. what they probably did in a case like this is you put a camera in her office, film her, watch what she is getting access to and then fire her. but for me the big point is that we are coming out with this now. this is leaked out. what the federal government, what the state department and cia are telling us is we are coming after the russians. we don t care what this president has to say about putin, it is a new relationship, turning a blind eye to election meddling, we are coming after him. this is more a part of it. it is almost like a freelancing i find it to your point, people make some mistakes. she gets caught. now we are hearing about it. you are saying that is very much on purpose. very much on purpose. we normally fire these people quietly. the fact that it happened a year ago and it is coming out now tells the whole story. you have the national security agency and everybody else saying the russians are meddling. you are seeing pretty much a revolt inside washington against the president. they are not going to let this stand the russians coming after us again in 2018 and 2020. thank you very much. an interesting take on it. of course, now think about how they snuck that camera in there when everyone assumes there are cameras snuck in on them. it is sort of the exciting part about spy craft. the state where republican roots run deep, can a democratic woman win in november? 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zero. reporter: how many people of color have been governor of this state? zero. reporter: you re looking at headwinds? yes. it s about time. she s about as comfortable doing a national news interview on horseback as the political barrier she faces. it is upon us to challenge the status quo and why it s unique for all the women across the country taking on these opportunities to be leaders and provide a different kind of voice. reporter: different is an understatement in this deeply conservative republican state, 80% white. at 38, jordan would be the first native-american woman in history to be elected? it s nice to meet you. reporter: inspiring an unexpected democratic surge. at this street fair, jordan was supposed to walk through it. supporter after supporter wouldn t let her get that far. i think you re fabulous. reporter: so many turned out in idaho s primary some precinct ran out of ballots and jordan crushed the establishment candidate. i voted for trump in the 2016 elections. reporter: it s possible a trump voter could support a democrat in 2018? absolutely. reporter: andrew crossing the aisle for the same reason he voted for trump, independence. i think she has a better background and support to protect our public lands. reporter: she doesn t look like a lot of idaho politics, though. i think it s fantastic. reporter: how do you turn 30 years of republican voting blue? the people have been fooled for far too long. now, they re waking up because it s our responsibility to get to them. reporter: jordan will have to win communities like this one to win the governor s job. this is canyon county, a conservative stronghold. it s a lot like other parts of idaho. in this state, registered republicans outnumber democrats more than 4-1. reporter: do you think this woman could win in the state of idaho? no. reporter: many won t even consider it. gop candidate brad little is their man. i will hold my nose and vote for brad s little. i think he s a rhino. you will still vote for him? i will still vote for him. i think the alternative is insanity. do we think we will win? i don t want to take anything granted. she s getting national attention candidates in idaho aren t used to. reporter: who do we have to talk to, to remember a time when democrats were in power here? here i am. reporter: chuck malloy was a young political reporter back in the 80s and 90s, no idaho democratic governors are alive anymore. if paulette jordan ride is a way with the governor s mansion, says malloy, it s not a blue wave, that would signal a tsunami. you can be adolph hitler and get elected. reporter: in this state? in this state. people may think, he may be a dirty rat but he s our dirty rat. reporter: we reached out to the governor s campaign to see if brad little would like to take part in this is gubernatorial run. the campaign declined saying he was simply not available. thank you very much. another fascinating one to watch. next, jeanne moos on nan ma fort s now infamous ostrich jacket. guess what, everybody. there is also an ostrich vest. let your perfect drive come together at the lincoln summer invitation sales event. get 0% apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus $1,000 bonus cash. (burke) abstract accident. seen it. covered it.ce music) we know a thing or two because we ve seen a thing or two. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum so paul manafort s ostrich jacket is not alone. he has a vest. yes, they are just as hideous as you might expect. here s jeanne. reporter: the price of an ostrich jacket doesn t really bite until you see it on the invoice, 15,000 bucks! and you re probably imagining this. i would imagine like there s feathers on it somewhere. reporter: read one tweet, manafort s $15,000 ostrich jacket probably looked like a but i will imagine b anyway. even kimmel fell for the feathers. that s what he should wear in jail sitting in the cell dressed up like big bird waiting for the trial. reporter: the jacket is actually leather, not feather, it s ostrich from the bumps where the follicles used to be. he bought and ostrich vest for $9,500, something even mr. burns on the stimsons didn t possess. ostriches get no respect and neither does an ostrich jacket. something you need in order to work for trump. it allows you to stick your head in the sand. the leather is considered luxury ends up in $35,000 bags. you know who else flaunts the ostrich as a status symbol? j.lo, in her latest music video about money. ostrich wasn t even manafort s most expensive exotic skin. that would be his $18,500 python jacket, then the plaid so similar worn by trump ex-lawyer, michael cohen, someone tweeted did manafort loan cohen his jacket. still, it s the ostrich jacket that has everyone craning their necks. that s right. he had a coat made from an ostrich, which explains the
Rachel Maddow takes a look at the day s top political news stories. by the letters, chs. confidential human source. now, the trove of documents detail reports of payments to steele, mostly redacted. you can see there, that s a lot of white space. there are two exceptions. the final page is information from a document, from february 2016. of course, that s long before the russia probe began. it says steele was, quote, verbally admonished by the fbi and that steele acknowledged the admonishment and even signed a document noting it. now, from this excerpt, which obviously is tantalizing, we don t have the wider context of why. the other item comes from page two of these new documents. it concerns the fbi s decision to terminate its relationship with steele. guess when? just days before the 2016 election. now, this document says steele had confirmed his relationship with the fbi to an outside party. and that he was a source for a, quote, online article. in addition to revealing his relationship with the fbi, steele also revealed information that he had provided to the bureau. so take it together, because this is pivotal stuff. on november 1st, one week before the election, steele informed by his fbi handler the nature of the relationship between the fbi and steele would change completely. and that it was unlikely the fbi would continue a relationship with him. that article was published online, on october 31st. it was written by someone who has broken a lot of news in this story, who i m sure you ve seen, if you watch rachel, you ve seen him talk to rachel. it s david corn, the mother jones washington bureau chief. he also interviewed steele for the story. the headline right there, a veteran spy has given the fbi information alleging a russian operation to cultivate donald trump. that was before the election. it was the first media account to reveal the existence of the memos that now, of course, have become a big deal. they are known as the steele dossier. they allege, among other things, that the trump campaign had organized collusion with the kremlin. quote, this is something of huge significance. way above party politics, that intelligence officer told corn, that would be steele. quote, i think trump s own party should be aware of this stuff, as well. the official confirmation of the fbi investigation into the trump campaign s contacts with russia was not confirmed for many more months. it s even easy to forget that, because it s the kind of big information that s the center of american politics, so we all talk about it. people who don t even follow the news know about it. but let s be clear. it was not until march 2017, many months later is, that s after the inauguration, after the election, when fbi director james comey went down to the hill, where he was testifying and said, yes, there was an open probe. by that time, the fbi had also initiated a separate but related investigation and that has now been broken much into public view, much more, because the break came with this very curious indictment of a woman named maria butina. now, she was suspected as an unregistered agent of the russian government. that she was trying to mount this covert influence operation through a conservative group, a gun rights group in the u.s. tonight, the same reporter who had the breakthrough scoop about the steele dossier has a new and obviously provocative question. did alleged russian spy, maria butina, cause a leadership shake up at the nra? the backstory here is an fbi dive, prior to the fact of trump becoming president, into russian attempts to influence the nra, which is a weird story. now, that counterintelligence investigation focused on a man who also has become more well known one of these oligarchs. his name, aleksandr torshin. he s a russian banker and a putin ally. her protege is maria butina and she founded a gun rights group in russia called the right to bear arms. so you have a putin-connected oligarch attached to a gun rights platform. and that is very odd. steven hall, the former chief of russian operations for the cia explains it thusly. the idea of a private gun ownership is anathema to putin. so the question is why? why was a pro-gun campaign being hatched by a leader in putin s own party? the answer put forward here, that putin was reaching out to attract the nra, specifically over to russia. this is part of what the justice department alleges. and again, the case is only beginning, but what they allege was a covert influence operation. torshin cultivating ties with the nra, all the way back in 2010. he and butina become nra members, which is weird. they begin attending the nra yearly conferences in the u.s., which are about domestic politics. they meet with top nra officials. they cultivate these friendships. the pictures tell the story. in fact, two times, they got senior nra officials to go to russia, all expenses paid, of course. 2013, the president of the nra, which if you follow politics, you know is a big job and something of a conservative star among people who care a lot about gun rights, which is a lot of people in america. his name there, you see him, is david keene. he goes to moscow, the nra president introduced by, guess who, maria butina. and then they declare no two people were more alike than russians and americans, so they had to work together. thank you very much. it s a great honor for me to be here today, partly because over the course of the last three years, i ve hosted your senator aleksandr torshin in a meeting from washington. the nra has 5 million members who work with everyone in the united states and here in russia. there are no more people that are more alike than americans and russians. we are hunters, we are shooters, we do the same thing and value the same kind of things and we need to work together. there are no more peoples more alike than americans and russians. i mean, it s fine if you want to bring people together with commonality, but that s not usually what you hear from conservative political operatives in america, certainly not back then, 2013. fast forward to december 2015. the middle of what is, of course, the pre-presidential campaign season. keene as well as other nra leaders include pete brownwell, and they head back to russia. this is their second visit. they go to russia. butina facilitating a meeting with a ceo of a private russian gun manufacturer, which produces a sniper rifle identified by the pentagon not for domestic use or hunting, but actually as a threat to american soldiers. the nra leader is treated to a tour of that facility and a chance to shoot some guns on site. the nra reportedly spent $30 million to support trump in 2016. and on the one hand, they do nra board member, was now, quote, poised to become the new president. this changing of the guard and how it happened was odd, he writes. earlier that day, peter brownhome finishing his first term announced he would not seek a second annual term for 15 years. the nra leadership followed a pretty specific pattern. we re getting deep into the bylines. but an officer elected by the board to serve two consecutive annual terms as executive vice president, and two as first vice president, and finally two as president. but the brownwell to north transition broke this process and precedent, puzzling many nra watchers. it even puzzled the incoming president of the nra himself. colonel north, what s your reaction to being elected as president of the national rifle association? well, it s an unexpected privilege. i m grateful for the unanimous support of the board. i did not expect that this was going to be happening at this annual meeting, but as soon as i get everything in order in my family, because this was very sudden, i ll be back to take that gavel. those kind of on-camera interviews are useful. may have sounded like a basic question, but we learned from oliver north s own mouth, this was unexpected. this was sudden. he was getting ready to adjust at the last minute. and then you have a true state secret that was unknown, at least to the public at that time. two weeks earlier in april, fbi agents clad in their tactical gear were raiding butina s apartment where they arrested her. now, we know that from these reports. and corn asks, did that fbi investigation of butina lead to nra president peter brownwell s decision in the words of oliver north to suddenly step down? he had, of course, interacted with butina in moscow three years earlier, and the nra could shed light on this. we would love to bring you their side of the story. any comment, with anything vague, anything. but they are declining to comment tonight. same for brownwell. corn reports he s not taking calls. i m joined now by the reporter at the center of the action, david corn, washington bureau chief for mother jones. david, we always learn a lot from you. i appreciate you joining me this friday night. thanks for having me on the weekend. heading into the weekend. you have a lot on this story. as you know, rachel has been on many pieces of this story for quite some time. what has advanced through what s happened with the nra? and let me start with the biggest question. i don t need to save it. reading between the lines of your reporting, are you saying you have reason to believe there is another indictment coming pursuant to the nra case? i m not saying that. i don t know that and i don t make any predictions on what the mueller investigation is going to be or the butina investigation, which is separate. we keep being surprised. and the big picture here, ari, is that we keep learning new things. things that we didn t know a week ago, six months ago. so on all of these investigations involving michael cohen, trump/russia, and of course the nra investigation. but it was, as you noted, it was very puzzling when the nra went through this leadership change. i remember getting the press release and it was weirdly put. oliver north is poised to become nra president. not that he s been chosen nra president, but he s poised to become nra president. and as he put it, it was news to me. and no one could really explain how this very hierarchical organization, that had very strict rules of succession in terms of its leadership would all of a sudden pluck a guy out who didn t see it coming and make him president of the nra when he wasn t prepared to be. and then only recently with the butina case, did we learn about this fbi raid. and remember, her partner, gun rights and access to guns, but these are people who have been around washington, made it to the top of one of the most powerful organizations around. how can one benignly or positively explain the complete ignorance that would be required to think that an authoritarian country would have a vibrant, private gun rights movement? you know, there s so much puzzling about this. in the book i did with michael isikoff, russian roulette, we wrote about the butina case before it became a criminal case, and we noted that she had shown up at nra events and other conservative events like cpac, the annual get-together, and was really trying to make friends with some of the leading officials. in fact, one fellow, you know, who said, by his own admission, he s in his 60s, doesn t have a lot of hair, has a little bit of a paunch, said, i m not used to young, attractive women coming up to me and saying, can i be your facebook friend? can i snapchat with you? and he thought there was something odd and weird that butina and this russian legislator named aleksandr torshin kept showing up, and that the nra that he was apart of was embracing this pair of boris and natasha. so there were some people who thought this was odd. but certainly if you watch that video of david keene, if you watch the video that was made of peter brunell in 2015, these guys are really having a good time. they re getting off making these russian connections so you re saying there was some suspicion about a snapchat honey pot? yeah. i think i mean, i think some people saw it that way. but it s clear at the time and it was clear in the 2016 campaign that whoever was masterminding this, whether it was torshin or somebody else, they had a pretty good insight into american politics. if you want to work your way into, you know, influencing republicans and conservatives who are now, you know, controlling all arms of government, do it through the nra. and they tried right. what decade warren zivon say? bring lawyers, guns, and money. yeah, the you know what has hit the fan. family show. family show, david! but i give them credit. you re saying it was done out in the open. you re getting at the fact that they were quite adept at infiltrating specifically the conservative wing of american politics in the way they did it. and that gives, of course, insight into what they re accused of with regard to the trump campaign, with j.d. gordon, a trump adviser who sits at the nexus of guns and trump. it s so much fascinating stuff, the final question i have for you we haven t even gotten to, which is the way you continue to the material that he had found, connections, allegations between the of interactions between trump and the russian government frightened him as a veteran counterintelligence officer. and he had taken his material to the fbi, had been working with them, but he felt this information needed to get out in some way before the election. that the american public had to be told this. so, he david, had the fbi publicly confirmed that on the record before? no, not at all. so why now? in fact, they were doing everything do you know why now? excuse me? do you know why now? well, the reason is, the conventional reason, that it was a counterintelligence operation that was ongoing and jim comey and others have explained that they don t make that information public, even when members of congress ask. now, steele s position was that he thought there was enough connections, enough to worry about without knowing the full picture that the fbi should have worked harder, you know, at least the u.s. government, someone in the u.s. government, to make more of that available to the public before they cast votes on november 8th. so that s why he talked to me. when he did that, the fbi said, okay, now too much of your own, you know, of a lone wolf doing this on your own. and we don t want to work with you anymore. but i think he knew that this would get him in trouble with the bureau. he thought it was important that the public knew something about this. it s fascinating and it s a story that obviously has gotten deeper and you ve been there from the start. i do appreciate your time tonight, sir. well, always good to be with you. you know that. thank you, david. we turn now to more news on this potential legal quandary for the president. i m going to be joined in just a moment by the pulitzer prize-winning reporter who s actually tracked donald trump s business dealings as closely as just about any reporter. now, looking at those legal questions, this reporter began this day with a scoop of his own about a notable spike in revenue at donald trump s new york hotel. after two years of sagging revenue, that hotel suddenly gets 13% more in the first quarter. the hotel s general manager says the spike was from, quote, a last-minute visit to new york by the crowned prince of saudi arabia. those hotel stays by the prince s entourage was enough to boost revenue for the entire quarter. it s not clear from the trump organization or the saudis whether that government paid those rooms. it s unclear whether the president is violating the emoluments clause. a bar on taking payments from foreign governments. last week, of course, a case got a green light for a lawsuit against the president over this very allegation. now, after the washington post published this story about the spike in revenue, the attorney general of new york announced her state also probing the same question. is the president violating this ban? joining me now is david fahrenthold, political reporter for the washington post. what s most important here? the big picture we re seeing here is that we really don t know, even 18 months into the trump presidency, we don t really know even the basics about what foreign governments are spending money at the president s properties. what foreign governments are actually using trump s businesses to pay donald trump, who then is overseeing u.s. relationships with those countries. this letter from the gm at the trump hotel in new york indicating this big group of saudis came in and it boosted their revenue for the whole quarter. you know, that s just an indication of what s possibly out there that we don t know about. you obtained this letter, but it was sort of put out by the trump business side themselves. they put themselves on blast. was that out of you know why they did that? um, no. this letter was meant for investors in the trump hotel in new york. so the trump hotel is owned the individual hotel rooms are owned by outside investors. and so this letter was meant for them, to sort of reassure them. as we said in the story, it had been a couple of bad years at that hotel. 2016 and 2017, the numbers had gone down. this was the general manager saying, hey, things are looking up again. this quarter has been good. and i ll explain why. basically saying, you know, i m working for you. i m trying to make the situation better. here s how we did it this time. do you think we should infer something negative about the trump organization s refusal to provide actual accounting of what they re donating back? i mean, i don t really know what we can infer from it. the thing you can tell from the way they ve reacted to these questions is that the trump organization is a private business. and it has always been a very private business. it had always kept as many details about its operation as it could secret. so even now that donald trump is in the white house, the trump organization, which is still owned by him, still seems to see itself in the same light, we re a private business, we do what we want, to the degree that there are legal requirements for us to disclose things about our business, we ll do it. but we won t go beyond that. the idea that there might be some sort of need for transparency above and beyond what the law requires, to be sure that the president wasn t sort of conflicted between his business interests and the public interests, they don t see that. they haven t responded to that at all. so we only know about his business dealings with foreign governments kind of through media reports, through dribs and drabs here and there. right, and through as often what you have been able to obtain by old-fashioned shoe leather reporting. david fahrenthold with the washington post, thank you so much. thank you. we have a lot more in this show. we will be right back. a bigger room?! -how many of you use car insurance? 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laporta replies, it s not appropriate. and she confessed she went along with it and helped manafort falsify those critical documents. i could have refused to file the tax return. that would have exposed the firm laporta reported. i could have called them liars. but manafort was a longtime client of the firm. she added, quote, i very much regret it. and that is immunity witness number one. there are four more people who have immunity who are ready to testify, plus the star witness, rick gates. we turn now to our in-house experts. josh garcia, and joyce vance, a former federal prosecutor as well as an msnbc analyst. they both kept a close eye on the case. josh, you were in the courtroom today. how damaging was cindy laporta s testimony and could you glean at all from the mood of the jury or the faces that she was hurt at all by the fact that she was in on the bad things she was talking about? i didn t get a sense that she was hurt. i mean, they knew that she had immunity. but she did seem like she was someone who was along for the ride here. unlike even gates, she didn t have any direct financial interests in these offenses that were being alleged. she was just accused of, essentially, having accepted what her clients wanted her to do, rather than resisting them. but i thought, ari, this was by far the most damaging day yet for manafort in the trial. i felt like some of the other evidence earlier in the case about the tax issues that he was spending way too much and transferring money in from overseas, it s still a little murky, you know if his tax returns were off, how much were they off? by $100,000. is that a lot on $1 million? does that amount to fraud? i don t know. but the stuff we heard about today seemed like very specific transactions, not only tax fraud, but a lot of very damaging evidence on bank fraud also came in through cindy laporta today, where she was specifically involved in apparently forged documents being turned over the banks. and it just sounded like the kind of conduct that is very intentional and very hard to explain away. it s fascinating, coming from you, having been there every day in court. because, joyce, i think josh is referring to something that prosecutors know well, which is that lawyers and accountants and definitely judges love paper evidence. but normal people respond to stories. and cindy laporta told a story today. that she was under pressure, that this was wrong, but she went lang with paul manafort s alleged crimes. do you think that kind of story is critical to mueller winning this case? it s the perfect sort of compliment to the documentary evidence, to all of the paper that the jury is seeing. and it s not a problem if the evidence feels a little bit murky at this stage. because the prosecution s job right now is to put facts and testimony in front of jury. and then in their closing argument, they ll get to assemble all of those facts and do a cohesive story that will be used to convince the jury of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. the story, the sort of almost human interest that they hear today from laporta, i think is helpful in getting the jury through to that point. josh, on the idea of hiding the foreign accounts, how damning was that? because, taken together, it seems to go to manafort s deliberate criminal intent. that s the way mueller is playing it forward. but again, trials have two sides and i think we can definitely expect manafort s defense counsel, when it s their turn to say, after this entire probe, all of this attention is on whether he said or correctly remembered all of this foreign stuff, even if he got it wrong, how big a deal is that? well, you know, they did say that in addition to sending the typical questionnaire that goes out to clients about whether they have foreign bank accounts that the accountant said, well, we e-mailed them specifically and said, we want to ask you again, do you have foreign accounts? do you have signature authority over them? and manafort or gates in various instances wrote back no. i think that that s problematic, but i do think it could be explained away potentially as an oversight or some confusion about what counts as signature authority. that s what the defense seems to be arguing. i do think, again, that the bank fraud testimony that came in cases where at one point, there was a $1.5 million loan outstanding, and it was a problem when getting another loan. and suddenly there was an eight-month backdated document available saying that loan had been forgiven and it was on stationary that seemed to be kind of shady and a signature that seemed shady, that kind of testimony, i just think is very, very damaging. and as you know, ari, bank fraud, those counts carry a 30-year maximum penalty on each one. the law takes that very, very seriously. and i think there s real trouble on the bank fraud charges for manafort. right. you see real risk there, as you say, this was the best day of the case. final word to you, joyce. when you look at what they re going to do when the when manafort s team gets in the ring, so much of this coverage is what looks bad for him. could you give us any wisdom on what they ll try to do to rebut what josh says has been a tough day? they don t have much of a rebuttal opportunity here. their best argument, the argument that they suggested that they would use in their opening statement is that it wasn t manafort, it was gates. but there was testimony from witness after witness yesterday and today, indicating that manafort was the person who provided them with final details. manafort saw and reviewed every document before it was signed and filed. it will be virtually impossible for them to make that argument. and they ll be stuck, as so many defendants are, simply with arguing that the government didn t present enough evidence to meet its burden of proof and that it s not enough for the jury to think that the defendant might be guilty. that the jury should, in essence, hold the government responsible for proving guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. doesn t look like the government is going to have a lot of trouble here, though. right. and that the best they can do is say, if you have any doubt, whether maybe rick gates was actually secretly pulling the strings or any doubt whether paul manafort was actually confused then maybe throw it all away. and i think that speaks to why it s been such a methodical case for mueller s team. my special thanks to joyce and josh. we greatly appreciate it. i will tell you, still ahead, goats can eat your trash. they can trim your grass. they can even help you exercise and nail your perfect yoga position, the downward dog. we are going to explain how goats fit into some very important developments. look at the one on the back. that is that s some serious yoga posing there. that s when we re right back. m. 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permanently orphaned child and that is 100% the responsibility of the trump administration. i m joined by msnbc correspondent, jacob soboroff, who has reported extensively on this story for years now, before the separation policy kicked in, and before this period of litigation ensued. number one, your view of what was a smackdown of this idea that the aclu should clean up trump s mess. that s exactly what it was. it was a smackdown, a clap back from the judge. and i was in court a week ago tonight, down in san diego, when the judge said he was going to order both of these parties to come up with a plan to reunite the remaining kids. 2,551 was the overall number. 572 is the number of kids that still, months later, haven t been reunited with their parents, ari. and the judge was flabbergasted. he just said, there is no plan. nobody came up with a plan. i ordered you last week to come up with a plan. the administration submitted, in this paperwork, this court filing last night, thursday night, a plan that basically said, you know what, if the aclu really wants to do it that badly, you guys should take the lead and we ll be the supporting role here. right, it s remarkably cynical. you would expect it from other parts of the administration in rhetoric, to go to a judge and say it is pretty wild. it s as if somebody complained that, say, inmates are not being fed meals in prison and the response of the government is, fine, you feed them. you come to the jails and feed them. it doesn t even make sense. just logically, you re the trump administration. you are the ones that put into place this systemic policy to separate all these kids, that had never been done before, to take them away from their parents, to do this as a deterrence policy that nobody else would come into this country illegally. a strategy we know doesn t make sense. and then when the thing doesn t work out, just lake there was no plan in the beginning to put it into place and that s why it was such a 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