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volume it untearly come in and fill out forms which you have to do. part of the form in m rp would be have you or are you using drugs in the past? you have past or are you using now? i think that's a reasonable question for somebody getting something from the taxpayer they want to know who the individual is it's a fifth amendment question. it's a serious one. >> it's a serious one. remember, we are not going to them. they are going to us. they are applying for government funding. and the government has a responsibility to the taxpayer to protect the money. so that's where i think your argument is weak. but it even gets -- it's even more. if there are red flags, say, yes, i'm a heroin addict. please give me the welfare, then you are required to go to counseling. they won't say. no you will still get the welfare. but you have to go to counseling. which i think is a good thing. i mean, we have a drug problem in this country no, question about it. decided every level.

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