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Not going to stand up for their leaders. this is where the party is going, and it's pretty clear they are, this is what you're going to get, no matter what an individual candidate says. yeah, i think you have to turn the republican party writ large as an unacceptable alternative to give any more control to. that can differ by district or state, but that's where there's macro political trends in terms of the economy, biden's poll numbers. there's a macro piece of this too in terms of who's your competition. and i think yes, most median swing voters, ari, not just median swing republican candida...

Of the race, i think that is where the most important change could be. >> interesting, so you're actually getting into the macro piece that i wanted to talk to you about. the issue of age for some of the front running candidates who are the top three over 70. senator sanders a little bit ago when he was asked about this, he called it age oicism. i want to play that. >> maybe you and vice president biden are too old for this race. what do you think of that? >> i think that's kind of ageism, to tell you the truth. and i think what we are trying to do, all of us are trying to do is end discrimina...